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Post time 2014-2-15 20:04:46 |Display all floors
BEIJING, Feb, 14(Xinhua)---China and the United States on friday agreed to advance a new model of times between major powers as U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry visited Beingjing for talks.

"China is firmly committed to building a new model of major-country relationship between China and the United States together with the U.S. side," Chinese President Xi Jinping said in his 70 minutes meeting with Kerry at the Great Hall of the People.

China will continue to enhance dialogue, boost mutal trust and cooperation and properly handle differences in the new year so as to forge ahead with the lasting and healthy development of the ties, the President said.


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Post time 2014-2-16 16:34:29 |Display all floors
A TEST OF COMMAND AND CONTROL IS NEEDED TO ESTABLISH TRUST IN EACH OTHER'S PLEDGES

China can deliver on its promise to deal with America peacefully, because Xi has direct control over his Navy and Air Force, but Obama's control over any naval vessel is less certain.  He might not even have issued strict orders for them to never fire on any Chinese plane, ship or drone, unless approved by him personally.  Without this degree of control, there is no way China can trust his promises of no military conflict, because in reality, he would have no say on whether or not it is initiated, as his line of authority ends quite shortly outside of Washington DC.  If China cannot trust Obama's ability to deliver (not his sincerity), this model of major power relationship has no gas to travel any distance.

To prove their ability to command and control their military, when Obama is visiting China, he and Xi can make a wager and conduct an experiment.  Xi will order two military planes to fly over Diaoyudao, and Obama will demonstrate his ability to call off any Japanese or US military response.  Then, Obama will order two US military planes to fly over Diaoyudao, and Xi will order the Chinese armed forces to call off any interception.  This will not constitute a precedent for violation of China's sovereignty over Diaoyudao if it is clearly agreed ahead of time that it would be secret joint military exercise that the two commanders-in-chief agreed to conduct between themselves alone.  Once they have demonstrated their full control over their militaries, they can sit down and talk about mutual trust and cooperation.

Failure of command and control makes peace impossible to exist, as war could be started by anyone with a gun, a ship, a plane or a missile under his command.  Peace requires discipline.  There is just no way around this.









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Post time 2014-2-16 18:07:02 |Display all floors
This post was edited by whampoa at 2014-2-16 18:16

From what I know historically, up to now and will be the same in the future,
USA has never accepted any country as EQUAL.

Just look at the leaks from the fugitive Snowden, USA even spied on its closest allies like UK and Germany.

So, wish China LUCK and don't fall for their trap and lies.  Importantly, don't make compromises or it will be the end of the road.

There is no fairy tale ending, never before and never will, not with those control freaks.

Salute, Chairman MAO !



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MORAL DECAY, PROMISCUITY and pornography which...
DEGRADED women.

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Post time 2014-2-17 06:35:30 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2014-2-17 09:07
whampoa Post time: 2014-2-16 18:07
From what I know historically, up to now and will be the same in the future,
USA has never accepted ...

WITH "FRIENDS" SUCH AS BRITAIN/AUSTRALIA, AMERICA DOES NOT NEED ENEMIES - THE HISTORICAL RECORD OF BRITISH BETRAYAL OF AMERICANS.

According to the news reports, it is the British who may have spied on the USA, while the US has restricted itself from spying on the British empire, which includes UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.  

Not only that, by acting as the eyes and ears of America, the British empire has managed to manipulate America's perception of the world, including China, aiming to create tension between the two superpowers, and hoping that their dispute over Japan's illegal annexation of Dioayudao will lead to their mutually assured destruction.  It was Australia that argued for and got Obama's "Pivot to Asia".

Of course, Japan will go, either way.  The job given to Abe is to lead the Japanese people into a No-Win and No-Way-Out Situation, like a bait on the hook, being thrown into the depths with a sinker, awaiting its being chomped - like the Lusitania was brazenly used in 1915 - in order to bring the US into war with China.  In accordance with Churchillian principles, this is most efficient and effective way to restore the forturnes of the British empire.

The timeline of the British deception of America, a second time, after the Lusitania sinking in 1915 that was instrumental in dragging America into WWI, began with Churchill's return to government in September 1939.  Once again, he planned to defeat Germany by maneuvering America into the war.  FDR was quite astutely wary of Churchill, and found him untrustworthy, even though this is not evident in their photo-ops of the time.  Knowing how America was dragged into the European War that became WWI in 1917, his focus was on events in Europe.  Churchill had other plans, however.

This time, America will be dragged into the war, not in the Atlantic, but in the Pacific, theater, and there were signs aplenty that the opportunities for such an event in the Pacific were in great abundance.  Japan had openly and savagely attacked China, murdering millions in the process, and wanted to get its hand on Vietnamese tin, rubber and oil, as well as Indonesian oil, which were kept out of its reach by the US Naval fleet based in Hawaii, backed up with supplies from Manila.  However, Britain made sure Singapore, its colony, would be at the top of America's list of concerns, to the point that FDR assumed that if Japan attacked, it would attack Singapore first, not some US base in the Philippines or Hawaii.  American kindness and naivete was fully exploited by Churchill in a most unusual way.  Britain created an internal report that Singapore could not be defended because it would take 90 days for British ships to arrive to relieve it from any siege.  And this report, conveniently, on its way to Singapore, was intercepted by a German ship and given to Tokyo, which made Japan decide not to waste its time attacking an indefensible Singapore.  Pearl Harbor then became its top target.

As in the lead up to the Lusitania sinking of 1915, the key to a successful false flag operation dragging America into a second war with Germany, this time via Japan, required precise timing, and precise timing required precise intelligence, which in turn required cracking the most sensitive codes of the Japanese navy, called the JN-25, which Britain did in Singapore.  The Purple and Red codes were cracked by America and shared immediately with Britian.  But America did not get the crack for JN-25 right way, or that of the German Enigma from Britain, until after it had declared war on both Germany and Japan.  Thus Churchill would have been in the know about Japanese war plans while FDR would not.  Nor was FDR aware it seems that the British report about abandoning Singapore had fallen into German, and therefore Japanese hands.  Thus, he was convinced by British declarations of the strategic importance of Singapore that the first signal of Japanese attack would be the siege of Singapore, giving America enough time to mobilize against Japan.  Little did he know that the Japanese had changed their plans to attack Pearl Harbor first.  The setup for the "surprise" attack on American lives, like in the Lusitania in 1915, but now, in Hawaii in 1941, was in place.  All it required was for the Japanese to be undetected in their long approach towards Pearl Harbor.  Just as Churchill ordered the British frigate, Juno, to return to port, he had to avoid the Japanese being detected, and here is where his flexibility shines.  The answer to this dilemma was to do nothing.

When Singapore intercepted Japanese communications on November 25, 1941 that Admiral Yamamoto had ordered the task force to move out of the Kurile Islands on November 26, 1941, Britain was watching for his ships along their expected routes to Singapore and Manila, but found no signs of the Japanese task force.  Then, on December 2, 1941, the British intercepted another message from Yamamoto to "Climb Mount Niitaka 1208" and specified the date of the attack as December 8 in Tokyo, which would be December 7 in Hawaii.  Any grade school student could have multiplied the speed of the vessels by the time interval between November 25 and December 8, to realize that the target is way out in the Pacific Ocean, i.e., Hawaii.  But Churchill did nothing with the information.  FDR was not informed.  America still wasn't given the code for deciphering the JN-25, even after having shared its crack on the Japanese Purple and Red codes with Britain.  

Finally, on December 4, 1941, the Japanese new bulletins sent out a weather forecast of "east wind rain" suggesting something was about to happen, but again, Britain did not tell America where the most likely attack would occur, despite having enough information to exclude Singapore from the list, which America was still intently watching out for, in deference to the superior intelligence and welfare of its British partner.  It was speculated that Britain probably had intercepted the final communique from Tokyo instructing its diplomats to declare war on America after the attack on Pearl Harbor, given that it had cracked the JN-25 Japanese naval code, but this is not material to the thread.  

Feigning innocence, Churchill invited American ambassor to Britain, John Winant, and Roosevelt's personal envoy, Averell Harriman, to dinner, and promptly at 9 PM had the radio turned on to listen to evening news, when it was announced that Japan had attacked America at Pearl Harbor with losses of thousands of American lives.

Churchill later said, "No American will think it wrong of me if I proclaim that to have the United States on our side was to be the greatest joy.  Once again in our long island history we would emerge safe and victorious.  Being saturated ans satiated with emotion and sensation.  I went to bed and slept the sleep of the saved and thankful."

In the meantime, America suffered one of its worst casualties in a single day in its history.

2,402 Americans killed.

1,247 American wounded.

188 aircrafts destroyed + 159 damaged.

4 battleships sunk + 4 damaged.

3 cruisers + 3 destroyers damaged.

2 other ships sunk + 3 others damaged.

The next day, FDR in Congress declared war on Japan, and called the Japanese Attack on Pearl Harbor a Day of Infamy.  If he had known then what Churchill knew but did not tell him, he would have also called it a Day of Treachery.

THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW THE LESSONS OF HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.  AMERICA'S FAILURE TO LEARN THE LESSON OF WWI, IN THE MATTER OF THE LUSITANIA FALSE FLAG OPERATION TO DRAG AMERICA INTO THE WAR, LED IT TO TRUST BRITAIN IN 1941, SUFFERING AN UNNECESSARY LOSS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES, JUST SO ITS GOVERNMENT WOULD BE FORCED TO ENTER THE SECOND WORLD WAR.  AND NOW, THE AUSTRALIAN MANIPULATION OF THE DEFINITION OF A "CHINA THREAT" BEING THAT OF A CHINA RISING RAPIDLY THAT IS A NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRY, COMBINED WITH ABE'S ESCALATING PROVOCATIONS OF CHINA TO THE POINT OF ANNEXING A DIAOYUDAO THAT BELONGS TO THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA IN TAIWAN AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA ON THE MAINLAND, COUPLED WITH AN "IRONCLAD" GUARANTEE BY ANGLOPHILIC OFFICIALS THAT AMERICA WILL DEFEND JAPANESE AGGRESSION ON CHINESE TERRITORY, SMACKS OF ANOTHER REPETITION OF THE CHURCHILLIAN FORMULA.

BUT THIS TIME, HOW MANY INNOCENT AND BRAVE AMERICAN LIVES, OF ITS BEST AND BRIGHTEST MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, WILL BE SACRIFICED, IN ORDER TO CONVINCE OBAMA TO ENGAGE CHINA IN A WAR OF MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION?  THE SCARY POWER OF MODERN WEAPONS SUGGEST THAT THE CASUALTIES WILL BE AT LEAST ONE THOUSAND TIMES THAT OF PEARL HARBOR, FOR STARTERS.

IT IS TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO WAKE UP TO THE FACT THAT NOT ALL ENGLISH-SPEAKING FOLKS ARE THEIR FRIENDS, AND THAT A CHINAMAN WITH A HOE ON HIS BACK, SPEAKING BROKEN ENGLISH, MIGHT ACTUALLY BE HIS REAL FRIEND.  







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Post time 2014-2-17 07:54:26 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2014-2-17 08:22

Yes, the time has come for a new kind of major power relationship between America and China, one not based on speaking a common English language, but one based on speaking the common language of TRUTH AND SINCERITY.

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Post time 2014-2-17 08:33:04 |Display all floors
New model is simply this.



That since China's head is too big and they needed nine dashed lines.

The US need to come out with 10 crosses.





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Post time 2014-2-17 08:43:10 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2014-2-17 08:53

ABE IS A TRAITOR TO JAPAN, BECAUSE HE IS LEADING HIS PEOPLE TOWARD GUARANTEED MASS DESTRUCTION OR SUICIDE, NO MATTER WHO WINS THE NEXT WORLD WAR.

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