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Post time 2013-5-2 12:51:22 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2013-5-2 11:05
Should modern society be run by "experts" and "scientists" only?

Or should the experts and scien ...
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Post time 2013-5-2 12:53:08 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2013-5-2 11:05
Should modern society be run by "experts" and "scientists" only?

Or should the experts and scien ...
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rude. The ultimate rude, Willie Soon


Another of the Rat hero......this you must watch.....

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Post time 2013-5-2 12:53:27 |Display all floors
I've made my living, Mr. Thompson, in large part as a gambler. Some days I make twenty bets, some days I make none. There are weeks, sometimes months, in fact, when I don't make any bet at all because ...

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Post time 2013-5-2 21:44:44 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2013-5-1 21:44
In fact, I read the ZZEIT article in its German original and found that the author who interviewed ...

Can you send me a link to the original? I read German, so I'd like to see the original article.

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Post time 2013-5-2 21:53:34 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2013-5-1 22:05
Should modern society be run by "experts" and "scientists" only?

Or should the experts and scien ...

You talk about a "3% minority". Can you substantiate that number?

I firmly believe that scientists and experts have a duty to serve society. "With great power comes great responsibility", "for the greater good", and all of that.

You and I are arguing completely different points. I am not disagreeing with you that the dissenters tend to be rather impolite about it. I suspect they amount to much more than three percent.

The problem, as I see it, is that the whole issue is so politically polarized that it is nearly impossible to find accurate, unbiased reports. Even the data are being questioned, and given the time frames involved in this type of research we cannot simply repeat the experiment, so to speak. The only way to be absolutely sure would be to conduct a prospective study and observe the changes. Unfortunately, the time frame involved in such a study would be at least ten years (more likely 20), and the scientifically proper way to do it since we have only one Earth and thus cannot do a controlled study is simply not to do anything differently and just observe.

HOWEVER, due to the theories that are being promulgated about the potential negative impact of simply making no changes, this approach is (for good reason if those theories are correct) considered irresponsible, and people are pushing for action to be taken.

Name-calling and mud-slinging are inappropriate in scientific circles (and indeed in any civilized discourse). I am a scientist. I just want reliable answers. I am looking into NASA's reports now, and I know some folks in a different department in NASA who could at least give me an idea about how those folks are viewed.

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Post time 2013-5-2 23:50:03 |Display all floors
querist Post time: 2013-5-2 21:53
You talk about a "3% minority". Can you substantiate that number?

I firmly believe that scientist ...

Planting a doubt....


That is also the tactic of the tobacco lobbyists many years ago.

Same same people, same same tactic.

They have won in America.......

They rest of the world treats them as what they truly are......con men.

And that is the best summary I can give.
I've made my living, Mr. Thompson, in large part as a gambler. Some days I make twenty bets, some days I make none. There are weeks, sometimes months, in fact, when I don't make any bet at all because ...

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Post time 2013-5-2 23:56:43 |Display all floors
Planting a doubt.

That is the tactic used by the tobacco lobbyist many years ago

Same same tactic, same same people

They have won in America

The rest of the world , mainly, treats them as what they truly are, conmen.

That is the best summary I can give.

Outside America.....every decent person talks about green energy, green technology, trying their best.

Inside America, person are still  talking rubbish, still at the starting point, still in doubt.
I've made my living, Mr. Thompson, in large part as a gambler. Some days I make twenty bets, some days I make none. There are weeks, sometimes months, in fact, when I don't make any bet at all because ...

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