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Post time 2013-8-13 01:06:44 |Display all floors
LawrenceD Post time: 2013-8-12 18:30
>How dare you take that away from them?<

Read carefully - it is Dr Polya's contention, though I thi ...

Back then as well as now, there is a tendency to disregard the slavic peoples.  Western europe do not see them as equals.  They never did.  They would of never went to war for them.  Never.

It was Russia...thank god for Russia.

Russia stood by Serbia after war was declared on them.  That is what triggered the alliances and the war.

What the hell does the UK have anything to do with that except that they honored a defense pack with Russia?


  
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Post time 2013-8-13 01:08:11 |Display all floors
LawrenceD Post time: 2013-8-12 18:16
>The Russian Revolution was their own internal matter.<

No, the Revolution was, in fact, aided by G ...

Just stop..

Being ignorant, stupid puppet people does not fit well with Russian character.  You insult them.

The UK or the US have never had a significant influence on Russia despite what they may think.  Russia has and always will, follow her own path.
  
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Post time 2013-8-13 08:03:28 |Display all floors
LawrenceD Post time: 2013-8-12 20:16
>The Russian Revolution was their own internal matter.<

No, the Revolution was, in fact, aided by G ...
I don't like Wikipedia as it's often hijacked by interested parties,


Therefore, do what you do with CNN, MSNBC and any other information bottleneck vulnerable to the wannabe gatekeeper, don't go there!
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Post time 2013-8-13 09:41:35 |Display all floors
>Being ignorant, stupid puppet people does not fit well with Russian character.  You insult them.<

Not at all. Check your facts ... Lenin WAS sent to Russia by Germany to conduct the revolution because that was one way Germany could get Russia out of WW1. In the same way, though the West wanted to stop the Bolsheviks, another reason was that if they could re-instal the Tsar, Russia would continue the war against Germany.

Strangely, a somewhat parallel thing happened to the Chinese Revolution of 1911. The Ching government kidnapped Dr Sun Yat-sen in London and kept him the their embassy. His former English tutor Dr Cantle came to know about it, and reported to Scotland Yard of this international outrage. By raising a hue and cry in public, Dr Cantle forced the Ching government to release Sun, who of course proceeded with his attempts to overthrow the Ching government. The grateful Dr Sun wrote an article "Kidnapped in London" to reveal the role of his beloved teacher in the affair. Until today, Dr Cantle is very much in Chinese hearts (and no, the Chinese don't feel insulted with this help from an Englishman).

Many foreigners had helped, one way or another, the Chinese people to achieve their 1949 Liberation. We always treasure the memories of Dr Roy and others from India, Russia, and of course the United States. There was also the Canadian Dr Bethune, who was immortalized in Chairman's Mao's article and lived in Chinese hearts as well. We surely don't feel insulted by them.

>The UK or the US have never had a significant influence on Russia despite what they may think.<

That's quite correct. The Russians are indeed a great people and they do what they think their country needs.

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Post time 2013-8-13 12:07:31 |Display all floors
This post was edited by LawrenceD at 2013-8-13 15:31

>Back then as well as now, there is a tendency to disregard the slavic peoples.  Western europe do not see them as equals.  They never did.  They would of never went to war for them.<

Precisely. That was why the "entangling alliances" theory was not entirely true. However, the fact that, as you said, "Russia stood by Serbia after war was declared on them.  That is what triggered the alliances and the war" showed that it did have some (though not sufficient) validity.

I've always admired the Russian people, who were the true victors of WW2 (about 90 percent of Hitler's elite troops were wiped out by the Russians, making the so-called Normandy landing a piece of cake, at least comparatively). Besides literary greats like Dostoevsky or Tolstoy few people today remember gymnastics greats such as Bilozerchev, Yuri Titov, or Andrianov or the beautiful Nelli Kim, who was half-Korean, I think. Russia also produced chess greats like Smyslov, Botvinnik, etc., not to mention the great Bolshoi ballet. Long ago, I wrote a thesis based on the astonishing Bakhtin, at a time when he was quite unknown to the social sciences or literary criticism. And despite the slanders in the Western media, Leninism was a great contribution to Marxist theory (perhaps last week I alluded to his contention that imperialism was the last stage of capitalism here in China Daily).

I can go on and on, but it's quite unnecessary. One thing though - it was in Roy MacGregor's "Life and Times of Nikita Khruschev" (1959) that I first discovered that the parents of this former leader of the Soviet Union were buried in a mass grave in Kalinovka, Ukraine, due to the Western or Allied invasion of Russia in 1918. For more on this topic, read:

1. A Well-Kept Secret: The Allied Invasion of North Russia, 1918-1919 by William Ward (available in ebook format)

2. America's Secret War against Bolshevism: U.S. Intervention in the Russian Civil War,  Foglesong, David S., (Chapel Hill and London: University of North Carolina Press, 1995).

3. Churchill's Secret Crusade: The British Invasion of Russia, 1918-1920  By Clifford Kinvig, Hambledon Continuum, London, 2006.

4. http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj86/trudell.htm

5. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/russia.htm

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I do know about the Western "tendency to disregard the slavic peoples." Perhaps even with a bit of contempt: Winston Churchill once claimed that "beneath the skin of the average Russian lies a Tartar." As if that, even if true (it's not, certainly not ALL Russians have Tartar blood), is a defect.

More about WW1 later

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Post time 2013-8-13 12:14:18 |Display all floors
>do what you do with CNN, MSNBC and any other information bottleneck vulnerable to the wannabe gatekeeper, don't go there!<

Haha! But then, precisely because of such gatekeepers, most info logically are slanted towards the West. When that's the case, a few that's not so salutary - to the West - are necessarily more credible to those brainwashed by the Western media. You catch the irony?

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