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03/04/2013 · 5:41 PM

Ice-Free Antarctic, Arctic Predictions in the Toilet

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         


It appears to us that predictions of the Antarctic and Arctic being ice-free are about as impressive as predicting dinosaurs are having a comeback and will reappear any decade now, but we just don’t know what one. Why do we say this?

From our take, it looks like the ice at both poles is indeed making a comeback, not receding. As you can see from this article at The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), the Antarctic ice is back and could even set a new record:

It is very likely 2013 will go down in the history books as having the 2nd highest Antarctic sea ice minimum of all time. In 2013 there was 1.4 million sq km more sea ice than there was in 1997 at minimum.

You can plainly see from the below chart that there’s plenty of ice this year. To reiterate, it could even be a new record.

So what about those dire Antarctic predictions? Well, here’s some links for you to read.

Antarctica: It’s Getting Hot at the Bottom of the Planet: Time evidently thinks there’s a heat-wave down there.

Polar ice sheets ‘are melting three times faster than they were just two decades ago‘:  Uh huh, this one has both poles melting at accelerated rates.

Antarctic Ice Melt: This one has it losing-gaining. Must be like that global warming caused cooling and worse blizzards with less snow or something.

What about all those dire Arctic predictions telling us that by such and such a year you’ll be able to circumnavigate the North Pole in your kayak? Well, frankly, there’s so many predictions that someday, it may be one of them will get lucky, but only because it will be like the stopped clock that’s correct twice per day. It will be due to blind luck and not those garbage-in-preferred-result-out computer models.

As you can see by the below chart, there doesn’t appear to be a big problem in the Arctic either. So far it’s way ahead of 2007, the year that caused some warmers to hit the panic button.

Here’s a sampling for your review with links to the articles.

Ice Free Arctic Update - This one’s too funny. Why? Well, here we have “Top NASA experts predicted an ice-free Arctic for 2012.” Well, sorry guys, but 2012 is gone and that ice is not only still there, there’s a whole shitload of it.

Serreze : Ice Free Arctic In 2100 2070 2050 2030 - Looks to us like Serreze is like a guy who bets every spot on Roulette, knowing he’ll lose his ass, but at least he’ll win one spot.

By 2050 the Arctic ice sheet will be so thin that ships could be sailing across the North Pole, experts predict - We have to wonder if these are the same “experts” that predicted the Arctic being ice-free in 2012? Note they had to run 7 computer simulations to arrive at this conclusion. Must have taken a lot of time to come up with that garbage-in-the desired-result-out. After all that please note the use of the word “could” in the very first sentence.

There’s plenty more predictions out there but we don’t believe we have enough bandwidth to post them all.

We could book a summer vacation to the soon to be hot spot of Point Barrow, Alaska, or Western Antarctica, but it’s kind of hard to book in advance when you don’t know what year, decade, century, not to mention if it’s ever going to happen.




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Arctic Ice Conditions : The Same As 200 Years Ago                                                                                                                    



Posted on April 26, 2013by stevengoddard


                                                                                                                          
The extent of summer sea ice during the  19th century, insofar as it is shown in patterns  of navigability inferred from ship tracks, the  direct observations of explorers, and a number  of native accounts, is remarkably similar to  present ice climatology. A chart of northern  Canada (Figure 2) shows the routes followed  by discovery expeditions and their wintering  locations between 1818 and 1859, and also  displays the frequency that sea ice has  occurred during the recent 30-year reference  period 1971–2000. It is perhaps surprising that  most of the Northwest Passage was navigated  during the 19th century, with expedition ships  coming within 150 km of completing the passage on a number of occasions. Most   significant is that even in years that were   recognized as unfavorable at the time, ships  were still able to reach locations that would  be consistent with the worst ice conditions  that have occurred during the modern reference period. Of 33 expedition or supply ships  bound for the western part of Lancaster  Sound between 1819 and 1859, only two  failed due to unfavorable ice conditions.
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The Atlantic Ocean Off the East Coast Was the Warmest Ever Recorded in 2012



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