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Post time 2012-12-18 19:31:57 |Display all floors
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aaooq Post time: 2012-12-18 12:16
power system and noise-control technology, i think, are main indicators of submarines.

after all, t ...




so are the Russians going to sell China the technology? why kiil a goose!

In the interim, what is that noise? oh, it is the Chinese sub again with its usual racket! hard a starboard, Officer!
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Post time 2012-12-18 20:32:04 |Display all floors
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raton Post time: 2012-12-17 12:58
And it come into mind, not long ago a Chines developed submarine surfaced right next to an america w ...


to that recollection here is a rebuttal.....threat posed by China is minimal...a noisy submarine is no good to anyone

The Song’s provocative appearance was, for the Americans, ‘as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik,’ one NATO official told Britain’s Daily Mail newspaper, referring to the Soviet Union’s launch of the first-ever space satellite in 1957. ‘This could well have escalated into something that was very unforeseen,’ said Adm. Bill Fallon, then commander of US Pacific forces.

The incident underscored the then explosive growth of the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s undersea force, as well as Beijing’s apparent intention to wrestle the Western Pacific away from the once-dominant US Navy. ‘The Chinese are building a credible submarine force which will make it very difficult for the US Navy to maintain sea control dominance in or near coastal waters off of China,’ warned Rear Adm. Hank McKinney, former commander of the US Pacific Fleet’s submarine force.

Of particular concern to American defence officials was the projected introduction, over the coming decade, of up to 20 new nuclear-powered attack submarines, known as ‘SSNs,’ that are an order of magnitude more capable than the Song class. ‘The acquisition of increasing numbers of SSNs would give it (the PLAN) the ability to contest US naval forces farther from China’s shores,’ Thomas Mahnken wrote in China's Future Nuclear Submarine Force, edited by Naval War College professor Andrew Erickson and published in 2007.   

Yet nearly five years later, McKinney’s and Mahnken’s alarm has been proved false. The PLAN still possesses a tiny number of nuclear-powered submarines. The Songs and other short-range diesel boats remain the backbone of China’s undersea force. Beijing’s production of new submarines has declined andthe PLAN’s overall undersea fleet is likely to contract in coming years. ‘I don't think they know whether they want to make the full-up commitment it would take to do this (submarine) thing right,’ Owen Cote, Jr., an analyst at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, says of the Chinese.

Meanwhile, the US Navy and its Pacific allies have crafted plans to stabilize or even grow their own submarine fleets. In 2006, Western observers feared the undersea balance of power in the Pacific would tilt. In a sense, they were right. It has tilted – back towards the United States and its allies.

How that happened speaks volumes about China’s evolution as a regional power.

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Alex2010 Post time: 2012-12-18 18:40
Best conventional submarines is still the German submarine type 212 using Siemens proton exchange me ...

better than this?

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raton Post time: 2012-12-18 10:16
you are barking at the wrong tree, Australia spend millions on subs and they developed the best  r ...

Actually, the current Canadian submarine fleet is made of refurbished British Upholder class subs. The previous fleet was the Oberon class, also British made. Both fleets were modified to carry American torpedoes though.

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