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Post time 2012-9-1 16:47:27 |Display all floors
i think maybe japan will be the second hawaii of the us if it does to.

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Post time 2012-9-1 19:20:14 |Display all floors
SOVEREIGNTY IN THE MODERN WORLD -- 团结是力量 -- 起来!不愿做奴庸的人们,把我们的身肉筑成一个新的长城!

Regardless of how sovereignty was originally established, such as by initial discovery, development or conquest, in the modern world, sovereignty has to be maintained by military force.  Absent this element, claims of sovereignty quickly fade into history, and is replaced by the reality of a new master of one's past sovereign territories.  Sovereignty can be eroded also by internal division, even split into two, each of which parts stands even less chance of weathering invasions by other countries.

Thus, the standard strategy of an expanding power is to divide one's enemy into many separate sovereignties, and then conquer each wonderfully "independent" sovereignty which then fades into vassalage to it.  Therefore, the first sign of a crumbling sovereignty is when it splits into two or more separate entities, initially autonomous, then subsequently independent.  While there can be many reasons for such fragementation, there are usually only a few reasons for unity.  One of these is a common language, another is a common culture, and another still is an interdependent economy between the parts of this unity, but of necessity, there has to be a military power that rewards those who remain united with it, and punishes those who separate from it.

Thus, in this epic struggle between the People's Republic of China and Imperial Japan (currently still a constitutional monarchy), China's weakness is its current state of division due to an unresolved civil war of some 50+ years' duration, and its strength is its vastly greater resources and manpower than Japan.

If the PRC and ROC governments are serious about preserving the sovereign territory of the China they both swear fealty to, and derive their authority from, then it is imperative for the two sides to unite before they fight any external foe, whether it be Japan or Vietnam.

Logic dictates their certain defeat if they insist on being separate in their actions, and promises their victory instead if they can work as one.  So, why cannot China and Taiwan just stop worrying about external threats and pressures that seem to make victory so elusive for either one of them?  They are looking in the wrong direction seeking for a solution to their weakness and vulnerability.  They should look first within among themselves for a solution to their divided state, and having reached a consensus on what they shall work together on as one country, they would not have to worry at all about what external military threats they face, what external coalitions surround them, or what others say about their claims of sovereignty.  When the armies and navies of the United Republic of China enter into any theater, the outcome would instantly be a foregone conclusion.

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Post time 2012-9-2 02:58:11 |Display all floors
This post was edited by SMITHI at 2012-9-2 02:58
seneca Post time: 2012-9-1 20:25
I think that is a STUPID mind game.

First of all, if Japan lays territorial claims to Hawaii, it wo ...

"defend" little insignificant spots in the


this are not insignificant rocks , reason being is 200 miles exclusive zone that go from the rock to open ocean...............lot of oil and fish there bro

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Post time 2012-9-2 03:37:21 |Display all floors
This post was edited by grb at 2012-9-2 08:27

Would a USA philanthropist be able to take out an ad like this in a major Chinese newspaper?

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Post time 2012-9-2 05:26:19 |Display all floors
This post was edited by robert237 at 2012-9-1 13:27
seneca Post time: 2012-9-1 04:25
I think that is a STUPID mind game.

First of all, if Japan lays territorial claims to Hawaii, it wo ...

""Second: The people of the Americas don't respond so hysterically when another country claims rocky atolls
belonging to their country""

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This statement highlights your pathetic misunderstandings of the world around you. If any country laid claim to any of the
far flung Aleutian Islands of Alaska the USA would be more than ready to go to war. Your are about as stupid as they come.

If capitalism promotes innovation and creativity then why aren't scientists and artists the richest people in a capitalist nation?

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Post time 2012-9-2 05:59:15 |Display all floors
robert237 Post time: 2012-9-2 05:26
""Second: The people of the Americas don't respond so hysterically when another country claims rock ...

I believe the American government likes other governments to think it is irrational. What rational government would wish to provoke an irrational one into a violent response?

The solution for China? Act crazy. Really crazy. Crazier than Japan (that's difficult, I know, but try). Maybe take a cue from North Korea and threaten a "sea of fire" or something, but actually back it up with technology less than 40 years old. Then see how willing Japan is to argue over some islands.

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Post time 2012-9-2 06:04:07 |Display all floors
Col Post time: 2012-9-1 13:59
I believe the American government likes other governments to think it is irrational. What rational ...

The irrational part comes naturally for the US government.. too many Christians at the controls.
What can you expect?
If capitalism promotes innovation and creativity then why aren't scientists and artists the richest people in a capitalist nation?

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