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Post time 2012-2-28 02:44:41 |Display all floors
Is there really so much honey?
are they real honey in the jar bottle on the shelf in the supermar?

Do you prefer the crystalined honey ?
or you are  the typical American that would shy away from it and even complained that there is a
problem and thought it is expired product etc..

This is one of the  differences in the liquid honey and the "organic" & raw honey,
liquid honey are well filitered and do not contains pollen or other natural impurities like wings etc...
(Raw honey contains lots of pollen, which bees collect along with the nectar that they turn into honey.)

extracted http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt ... -is-honey-after-all
"Consumers don't tend to like crystallized honey," says Jill Clark, vice president for sales and marketing at Dutch Gold.  "It's very funny.  In Canada, there's a lot of creamed honey sold, and people are very accustomed to honey crystallizing.  Same in Europe.  But the U.S. consumer is very used to a liquid product, and as soon as they see those first granules of crystallization, we get the phone calls: 'Something's wrong with my honey!'"

Bottom line:  Supermarket honey doesn't have pollen, but you can still call it honey.  Call it filtered honey.   And the lack of pollen says nothing about where it may have come from.
                           Now, could there still be fraud going on, involving ultrafiltration and Chinese honey?  Yes, but not in the way described by the Food Safety News article.



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This post was edited by cloudd at 2012-2-28 10:25

Bees are producing GM-contaminated honey as they feed on GM cornfield etc..
We could not put GPS on the bees...

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/09/07-2
Published on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 by the Guardian/UK
EU Bans Genetically Modified-Contaminated Honey from General Sale
Bavarian beekeepers forced to declare their honey as genetically modified because of contamination from nearby Monsanto crops
by Leigh Phillips

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Post time 2012-2-28 09:56:37 |Display all floors
so..um what's GM honey ? I seldom watch npr.
Here am I. Hello Everyone.

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Post time 2012-2-28 10:24:11 |Display all floors
marcello Post time: 2012-2-28 09:56
so..um what's GM honey ? I seldom watch npr.

It should be GM-contaminated honey instead

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Post time 2012-3-2 22:05:36 |Display all floors
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2125192.stm
Friday, 12 July, 2002, 16:48 GMT 17:48 UK
China attacks Europe over honey ban
Bee
China says the honey ban makes the poor poorer
       
       
By Nicola Carslaw
BBC consumer affairs correspondent in China

A leading Chinese agriculture official has launched a bitter attack on the European Union for imposing a ban on Chinese food imports.

The Chinese authorities say it has led to trade losses totalling several billion pounds and is causing widespread hardship in rural areas that depend on overseas companies buying their produce.

The environment here is so clean my bees don't get sick and so don't need medicines

Chinese beekeeper

EU inspectors recommended the ban because they were so concerned about the routine use of antibiotics and hormone growth promoters in Chinese food production - and because of the lack of regulation governing the trade in veterinary medicines.

From Europe's point of view, the biggest impact of the ban, imposed earlier this year, has been on stocks of honey.

Chinese blends were widely used in the brands most commonly on sale.

Fit for emperors

I was given unprecedented access to Chinese food producers, who have sent an urgent plea to the European Union to restore trade, and I was escorted by officials to the eastern Shandong Province.

The slopes of sacred Mount Tai, a place of retreat and pilgrimage for China's emperors, is dotted with beehives.

The sound of crickets competes with the honey bees.

Until the ban, the highly fragrant honey collected here was destined for the European Union.

It used to be a product deemed fit for the emperors. But now, with the detection of illegal drugs in Chinese honey, it is not fit even for the European Union.

Its reputation is ruined - its purity in doubt.

Unfair ban

I was taken to meet a beekeeper whose livelihood depends on supplying the big honey exporters.

He said he could not understand why he was being penalised.

"This ban's totally unfair, " he said.

"The environment here is so clean my bees don't get sick and so don't need medicines.

"If these European inspectors found antibiotics, then it's nothing to do with my honey."

Yet, on any High Street, chemical pesticides and veterinary drugs are freely available.

Anyone can buy antibiotics such as Chloramphenicol, banned for use in food in Europe because it is potentially harmful to human health.

Traces of it and other illegal medicines were found by EU inspectors not just in Chinese honey - but in poultry, shrimps and rabbit meat.

Lost trade

Chinese officials took me to a rabbit breeding centre that used to supply three thousand tonnes of meat to Europe.

Now it has had to lay off two thirds of its staff and stop its expansion plans.

The government has now banned some twenty of the drugs that were routinely used

Beijing Ministry of Agriculture official

Anxious to show no illegal drugs are used here, the owner, Luo Dong, told me he was furious with the European Commission, accusing its inspectors of acting purely to protect Europe's own markets.

He said: "China's so keen to conform to world trade regulations yet now, because of a few industry rogues, well-run companies like mine are being punished by an over zealous ban."

The overriding message to the EU is that the ban is making the poor even poorer.

The Chinese government says it has led to billions of pounds of lost trade.

Drug ban stays

The top official at the ministry of agriculture in Beijing has condemned the ban as hasty and irresponsible.

But he acknowledged that there were flaws in the system: "The government has now banned some twenty of the drugs that were routinely used and has stripped hundreds more of their licences.

We have also sent out more than 22,000 teams of inspectors across China to monitor the food production methods of those who supply exporters."

In the meantime, European inspectors say they are not convinced.

They have said that until honey and other foods are drug free the ban will stay.

But the Chinese government said this was just a fraction of the total losses - because in the wake of the EU action, other trading blocks had followed suit with their own bans - including North America and Canada.

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Honey bees are seen dying off in large numbers these few years in US and other parts of the world.
Pesiticides may be one of the factors for these large losses.

It now cost more for farmers to pollinate their fruit plant before the seasons.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology ... y/story?id=10191391

"The 98 pesticides and metabolites detected in mixtures up to 214 ppm [parts per million] in bee pollen alone represents a remarkably high level for toxicants in the brood and adult food of this primary pollinator,"

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[url]http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1918282,00.html[/url]

Time science

New Clues in the Mass Death of Bees
By Bryan Walsh Monday, Aug. 24, 2009

In late 2006, something strange began to happen to America's honeybees. Colonies that were once thriving suddenly went still, almost overnight. The worker bees that make hives run simply disappeared, their bodies never to be found. Over the past couple of years, nearly one-third of all honeybee colonies have collapsed this way, which led to a straightforward name for the phenomenon: colony collapse disorder (CCD).

This might seem like little more than a tantalizing mystery for entomologists, except for one fact: honeybees provide $15 billion worth of value to U.S. farmers, pollinating crops that range from apples to avocados to almonds. Any number of possible causes for CCD have been put forward, from bee viruses to parasites to environmental triggers like pesticides or even cell-phone transmissions. Despite the Department of Agriculture's allotment of $20 million a year for the next five years to study CCD, it's still a mystery — and the bees keep dying.
(Read "Why We Should Care About Dying Bees.")

A new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) shows that the causes of CCD may be more varied than scientists expect. The bees may be dying not from a single toxin or disease but rather from an assault directed by a collection of pathogens. A research team led by entomologist May Berenbaum at the University of Illinois compared the whole genome of honeybees that came from hives that had suffered from CCD with hives that were healthy. The sick bees exhibited genetic damage that could account for the die-off, and that damage indicated that they might be afflicted with multiple viruses simultaneously. This could weaken them enough to trigger CCD. "It's like a perfect storm," says Berenbaum.

The PNAS team's work was possible only because the honeybee's genome is one of the few animal genomes that scientists have decoded in full. The researchers looked at the genes that were switched on in the guts of sick and healthy bees — the gut being both the place pesticides are detoxified and the main region for immune defense. The technique they used is what's known as a whole-genome microarray, and it's ideal for this kind of sweeping analysis. "It's a really powerful tool that lets us look at all 10,000 honeybee genes at the same time," says Berenbaum. "The causative agents [for CCD] might just leap out."

In the guts of CCD-afflicted bees, the microarray analysis showed unusual fragments of ribosomal RNA. Ribosomes are essentially the protein factories inside cells — they're vital to the health of the cell itself and the larger organism. Berenbaum believes that the presence of those genetic fragments inside the CCD-afflicted bees indicates that they may be under attack by a number of insect viruses — including deformed wing virus and Israeli acute paralysis virus — that damage the ribosomes. "It was the one factor that remained consistently associated with the CCD bees we tested, no matter where they came from or how severe the disorder was," says Berenbaum. "It doesn't have to be a specific virus, just an overload." Once the bees' systems get burdened this way, they are less capable of fighting off any other threat, from pesticides to other environmental causes.
(See TIME's video "Bees Without Borders.")

Berenbaum is quick to point out that the microarray analysis is only correlative, meaning that while it can show evidence that certain viruses are present in CCD-afflicted bees, it doesn't reveal exactly what role the viruses play, nor how best to battle them. One approach might be to control infestations by varroa mites, which carry multiple viruses into the hives they attack. The good news is that the disorder may be on the wane, with the Apiary Inspectors of America reporting that deaths from CCD are below 30% for the first time since the crisis began. "The phenomenon seems to be in decline," says Berenbaum. "The most vulnerable populations might have already crashed." American farmers should be thankful; just think of trying to pollinate all those crops by hand.

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