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Post time 2011-10-22 17:11:15 |Display all floors
Originally posted by correction at 2011-10-21 16:50
The parents of that poor little girl should be charged in court for gross negligence that resulted in the death of their 2 year old toddler.
She was left there on the road for such a long time,
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Is that all, Mr Correction ?

I am sure the little girl's mother will welcome your charge of gross negligence with open arms.

If only that would answer her grief that she is going through ............. she'd rather suffer that than the loss of her daughter.

Again, I ask that the charge of gross negligence be proved beyond reasonable doubts.

That entails how much you gweilos understand how the Chinese people live their lives.


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True, the Chinese drivers are mostly reckless.  They drove fast and do not follow the known traffic rules.  But they are not killers.  They just have their own unwritten rules, though not the best and could be improved and should as more and more western cars (thanks for Seneca's acknowledgement !) becoming a part of the livelihood of the Chinese people.

I remember visiting my relatives who live in a small town some years ago.  Every morning, my elderly aunt who lives in the countryside would visit her sons and grandchildren in the small town.  One day, I panicked when I saw her walking to a market place.  She was leisurely walking right in the middle of the road intermingled with scooters, motor-bikes, cars and buses honking loudly and intermittently.  She wasn't alone.  There were some who dashes across in a hurry and so on.  As it was a small road in a small place, I guess the motorists understood the unwritten rules of tolerance of such jaywalkers and the town people trusting drivers in their small place.

For me, I panicked at the sight.  That was not the only scene of danger that I had witnessed in China.  In Beijing some time ago, I saw a Chinese boy of 5 or 6 years' old playing hide-and-seek and catch with a young gweilo whom I guessed was a tourist living nearby.  They were in some sort of a car park.  There were cars driving in and out but the two just enjoyed outwitting each other.  At a corner, I heard the little boy's father shouting to him, "careful, careful of the cars!"  After a short while of catch and hide, the father reined in his little boy.  That was a relief although I did enjoy the fun the boy and the gweilo tourist had while also wary of the danger to the little boy (as you know kids!).

There were many of such brushes I personally had but they are no worries.  

In any case, prove your gross negligence !

I am sure that will be many times lighter a punishment to the mother as compared to her loss of a child.



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Post time 2011-10-22 17:27:19 |Display all floors
Idea is glorous,reality is cruel,i wish good man have good ritribution.

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Post time 2011-10-22 17:47:56 |Display all floors
Originally posted by DSseeing at 2011-10-21 14:05


He thought there were no surveillance video camera.

The others would have helped had they know about the surveillance camera.

In one other occasion a busdriver helped an 81-year-old woman who had fallen .The woman told the police that the driver had run her over,unfortunately for her and lucky for the driver the bus had a camera.


R.I.P Yue Yue

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Post time 2011-10-22 18:00:17 |Display all floors
Originally posted by taikor at 2011-10-21 16:41
The first driver knocked down the little girl. This could be an accident. But he saw the girl is under his vehicle and move his vehicle slowly over her little body. Surely, this is not an accident. And surely, this is not without fault. The whole world is watching not just in China. If the guy is freed, China's image will be utterly tarnished beyond repair! Get that in your head and stop making excuses and ASSUMPTIONS for something's that's obviously wrong!



Taikor, you know what whole problem is and WHY the problem culminates in this tragedy ?

They DON'T PROVE !

They see like YOU SAW and CONCLUDE ......... the guilty party.  There was NO DOUBT about it.  There is no need for any QUESTIONS OR PROOFS !  What is more convincing than Mr Taikor's every own EYES ?!!

But, WHERE IS THE PROOF, IF ANY ?  

That is why this tragedy happens.  You end up with NO ONE WANTING TO BE A GOOD SAMARITAN !!!  WHY ?  BECOZ he who is with the injured is the one with a GUILTY MIND and therefore HE MUST BE RESPONSIBLE !!!

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So, Mr Taikor SAW the driver SLOWLY run over the toddler and THEREFORE he was responsible for her death ??!!

What do you expect the driver to do with the girl stuck "under his car" ?

Shall he drive his car SIDEWAYS (so he doesn't hurt her) before he drives on ?

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First, I didn't see the video.  But based on Mr Taikor's description, it could be plausible that the driver knew something had happened.  

However, the FACT that he drove his vehicle "slowly over" the toddler suggests that HE DIDN'T WANT TO HURT HER.  He probably was too scared and hoped that some good samaritans would see the girl and helped her.

Unfortunately, NO ONE wants to be a good samaritan because it doesn't pay to be one .

WHY ?  Because the authorities or the man-in-charge is the likes of Mr Taikor who is NOT ENLIGHTENED to what is a good samaritan or cared for the truths.  Maybe, he just loves his big pay packet every month but is TOO IDLE to be bothered to seek proofs or get to the bottom of truths when a problem arises, such as this and many past lapses.

TAIKOR : "BELIEVING HIS OWN EYES" -- is what matters; not the proofs or the truth as there are no need for them.


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Anyway, with this kind of mindset such as Mr Taikor's, I don't blame the drivers and I don't blame or feel ashmed of the uncaring passers-by.  See, I don't cry for Yue Yue !  I hope she'll be the last but I doubt.



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Post time 2011-10-22 18:16:31 |Display all floors

I saw the video

and I'm very angry with the driver,the girl wasn't stuck under his car,he saw he hit a child and he panicked,he,the coward,could have at least removed her from under his car ,she probably would have been still among us.I do understand why the passerby's didn't help and it is not because of indifference but fear,it is wrong I know,and maybe this time things will change for the better,I hope so.
It breaks my heart.

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Post time 2011-10-22 19:00:26 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Kiki1971 at 2011-10-22 18:16
and I'm very angry with the driver,the girl wasn't stuck under his car,he saw he hit a child and he panicked,he,the coward,could have at least removed her from under his car ,she probably would hav ...



There you go again.

I say DON'T BE JUDGMENTAL and DON'T GET TOO EMOTIONAL.

The whole point I am trying to drive at is THERE IS A PROBLEM here and the Chinese people have to deal with the problem RATIONALLY and not emotionally !  

Judge the wrongdoers based on facts and proofs.  Deal with the wrongdoers in fairness and not harshness!


I am a Chinese and I know the Chinese people well enough.  EMOTIONAL and that is your weakness!  Don't you think so ?


There are 2 car accidents that etched in my mind.  One was the car accident involving the son of Li Kang.  He was only 22 years old when the accident happened.  I do not know how judicious the judgement/punishment was (whether it was based on the facts of the case and all the proofs considered including any mitigating circumstances).  But I understand that the case created a great furore and he was sentenced to the MAXIMUM jail term of 6 years.  I am FOR the harsh punishment only if it is just and fair based on the facts found and not on the anger of the people for who he is or that he shouted his father's name !


The second accident was the 20-year old student who stabbed the woman (a mother of two) after a minor accident.  The student was executed.  I felt deeply aggrieved for the 20-year old student (and yes, more so than for Yue Yue if you care to know).  My concern is how much of the decision to execute the 20-year old is influenced by the EMOTIONS of the people (and there was mention of the student being from a well-to-do family) and how much is based on real justice.


CHINA AND THE CHINESE PEOPLE have to do things right and not do things based on the people's emotions.  When you are able to do things fair and right for everyone, everything else will fall into their places.  This goes with treating ACCIDENTS as accidents, the drivers and the passers-by regardless of whether they offer a hand or not.


The Chinese people must learn to STEP OUT and do the most difficult, i.e. doing things RIGHT which may sometimes be unpopular with the people.  The road is a long and an arduous one, but not impossible.


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Post time 2011-10-22 19:08:49 |Display all floors
So you think you know me,well you don't ,you haven't met all Chinese ppl.I suggest you watch the video,then make your conclusions.

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