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Post time 2011-6-19 00:30:31 |Display all floors
Originally posted by 468259058 at 2011-6-19 00:17
Did government employee and official enjoy so much before 2000?
No.
Many university graduates prefer a job in companies.
However, after the privatization of local government-own companies,  ...
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You spent so much time ............

Writing so much ...........

I cannot sat that I do not appreciate it  .........

But it is still isolated bull in a developing country .........

The Western system is a lie ........

And China still needs time with its massive size ...........



But I did enjoy your ideas ........

Thank you .......

Time for me to finish the day .............


Bye ............

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Post time 2011-6-19 00:33:34 |Display all floors
Originally posted by 468259058 at 2011-6-19 00:04
Many migrant workers had the obligation to hand in 1/3 of monthly salary for retirement pension by themselves and companies according to the regulation.  ...

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Any basis for this ridiculous lie?

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Post time 2011-6-19 01:27:10 |Display all floors
Good posting 468259058, unlike the usual suspects in this thread, you actually made some good points and provided lots of info.
Cheers.

The Chengthugs are on the wrong side of public opinion and that is not going to change, in fact it's only going to get worse.
You have only needed to see them in action to know where this is going to end. (And it's not a happy ending)
Good Gweilo: My job is the ideological quality control

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Post time 2011-6-19 03:46:22 |Display all floors

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Post time 2011-6-19 08:53:24 |Display all floors
Do we care about the living of migrant workers?
Do we have sympathy with some guy, those street vendors, struggle for food?
Would they earn their food as street vendor if they can get a relative decent or fixed-time job?


Originally posted by 468259058 at 2011-6-19 00:04
Many migrant workers had the obligation to hand in 1/3 of monthly salary for retirement pension by themselves and companies according to the regulation.  

Originally posted by liuyedao at 2011-6-19 00:33
Any basis for this ridiculous lie?


Migrant workers had the obiligation to pay Income Fee (National compulsory retirement insurance) but, in practice, enjoy zero retirement pension after retired.

2009-10-12
source: CCTV news report
h ttp://news.sina.com.cn/c/sd/2009-10-12/231418814211.shtml

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Post time 2011-6-19 09:17:18 |Display all floors
National compulsory retirement insurance:
20% * averaged monthly salary paid by company
8% * monthly salary paid by employee

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In my city, if you got a salary of RMB 3,000 as employee in a company,
Your company need to pay Income Fee as much as RMB 9,60 for you.
You need to pay pay Income tax and Income Fee as much as RMB 350 for yourself.
(960+350)/3000 > 1/3

If you were a government employee, the Income Fee is nearly zero.


You can find more details in my previous post
You need to pay Taxes: 5,900 ~ 10,500 a month if your Salary is 10,000  
h ttp://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?gid=2&tid=696102&page=1&extra=page%3D1

Here taxes is not the narrow meaning of Tax in laws, but a broad meaning of real tax for each Chinese.
Here taxes = Tax in laws + Fee in regulations = the real tax for each Chinese.

The real tax is sky high for ordinary Chinese. The real tax is dirty little for government officials. The problem lies in different Fee. And for ordinary Chinese, Fee in regulations are much higher than Tax in laws.
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Post time 2011-6-19 09:21:56 |Display all floors
Migrant workers have land back home alloted by the government, where they can grow crops and build their houses. They lease their land to someone else to plow and collect rents and come to cities to make more money.  

There is nothing wrong with it, but they have to follow the laws and regulations. There are legal market places in almost all neighborhoods in cities, some are small, some are rather large. Why they have to vendor at places outside the legal markets? Just to evade the legal tax they have to pay and have the chance to sell fake, shoddy, inferior quality products without being punished.

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