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Post time 2011-4-26 21:39:16 |Display all floors
Originally posted by JFenix at 2011-4-26 19:38
Example?
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Most people including Americans care about the lives of others .........

This was openly seen after the first anti-Vietnam war rallies in 1966, but coincidentally these were not held in America ........

It was only when Americans realized that something was missing from their media, and that being the real news concerning the war, that they began to become concerned ........

Eventually, some of the press saw an opportunity in sales to open up on the real war coverage and well the rest is history .........


That same lack of real news is in your modern newspapers about Iraq and Afghanistan and the news you get has been sanitised for post by the powers that be ........

If your press reported what was really happening and the consequences on the people of those other countries then I don't think they would want to be a part of it .............

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Post time 2011-4-26 21:42:07 |Display all floors
Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2011-4-26 20:06
I don't know whether or not Americans want to pay to have their troops stationed all over the globe but matter of fact is that in Japan most expenses are borne by the local taxpayers. And the a ...
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Hey Satsu,

Many thanks for your comments ................

Msrong made a point about the media in Japan and S. Korea .........

Do you think the media tells it like it is or do you think that they are the same as in the US in that they are led and run in corporate interests  ..............  ?

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Post time 2011-4-26 21:46:33 |Display all floors
Originally posted by blueskies88 at 2011-4-26 20:16
You forgot to add England, occupied by US forces in World War II.
The bankers abandoned England as their main source of financial chicanery when they calculated the vast resources of the America ...
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Yes I did forget to add England   .................

Because they only occupied our woman ..........

You know doubt heard an old saying about women's knickers in England in WWII ...........

On yank and they are off ..............

In addition ..............

Both Germany and Japan were both subject to total defeat and capitulation ..........

Whereas, England was just broken and poor  ............      

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Post time 2011-4-26 21:48:25 |Display all floors
Originally posted by expatter at 2011-4-26 21:39
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Most people including Americans care about the lives of others .........

This was openly seen after the first ...


Vietnam is different from afghanistan.  We had a lot more people dying and coming back with missing limbs.  Afghanistan and Iraq combined wasn't as bloody as vietnam.   It's not just about having a conscious that moves people into action - its when it really hits home for them.  We had over 10k come back in body bags as opposed to around 1,200 for both iraq and afghanistan.

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Post time 2011-4-26 22:02:14 |Display all floors
Originally posted by JFenix at 2011-4-26 21:48
Vietnam is different from afghanistan.  We had a lot more people dying and coming back with missing limbs.  Afghanistan and Iraq combined wasn't as bloody as vietnam.   It's not just about havi ...
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Yes, I am glad you raised that which further supports my point ...........

The KIA from A & I believe are counted only as those that actually die on the soil ...........

The ones who die in the Medivac, in a hospital or later, are allegedly not counted in the KIA figure which due to the former has been stated to be considerably higher ............

But not in your media  .............

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Post time 2011-4-26 23:48:48 |Display all floors
Originally posted by expatter at 2011-4-26 22:02
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Yes, I am glad you raised that which further supports my point ...........

The KIA from A & I believe are counted only as those that a ...


The numbers are still no where near vietnam and we're talking about two wars over ten years.  

We don't need the media to tell us - we know the people in our communities that have been killed or maimed, they are our neighbors, our sons, daughters, cousins, - whatever.  Not to say that the media doesn't have a responsibility, but there is only so much you can hide.  The soldiers that come back talk to people and there is nothing they can do about that.

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Post time 2011-4-26 23:50:08 |Display all floors

Chicago Tribune .........

U.s. Agrees To Shut Down An Airfield On Okinawa

April 13, 1996 | By Michael A. Lev, Tribune Staff Writer.

Moving to end a controversy days before President Clinton arrives on a state visit, the U.S. and Japan agreed Friday to close a U.S. military airfield on Okinawa within five to seven years.

For months the two nations had been looking for ways to end a protest movement on Okinawa by reducing the concentrated U.S. military presence on the Japanese island and returning land to Okinawans.

The decision to close Futenma Air Base was a surprise because it had been considered necessary for U.S. operations in Asia.

But the Marine airfield, in the middle of a suburb of the Okinawan city of Naha, had become a focal point for residents' anger. They have complained for years about the noise and danger of living so close to so many military installations. Their protests became much louder after three U.S. servicemen were arrested for raping a 12-year-old Okinawan girl last September.

The announcement comes amid U.S.-Japanese plans to reaffirm their security ties during Clinton's summit with Japan's prime minister, Ryutaro Hashimoto.

At a news conference Friday night, Hashimoto and Ambassador Walter Mondale said additional measures to reduce the U.S. presence on Okinawa would be announced Monday when Defense Secretary William Perry comes to Tokyo. Clinton is scheduled to arrive Tuesday.

The U.S. and Japan will continue looking at the issue until November. The two sides already have announced some noise reduction steps that include limiting night flights.

"On Okinawa, Americans live as neighbors and we want to be good neighbors," Mondale said.

The ambassador said the helicopters and KC-130 air tankers stationed at Futenma will be reassigned to other U.S. bases in Japan over the next several years. To make room for the aircraft, Harrier jump jets stationed at another base will be returned to the U.S. The actual number of American troops in Japan -- about 47,000 -- apparently will not change.

Trying to reconfigure the American military presence to appease Okinawans has proved difficult, Mondale said, because the U.S. and Japan had agreed that continued instability in places such as China and North Korea wouldn't permit any significant reduction in operations. Futenma's closing will not impair military readiness, Mondale said Friday.

But the two sides also acknowledged that Okinawa was burdened by an unfairly large share of the military presence. About 75 percent of the American bases in Japan are on Okinawa, which makes up less than 1 percent of Japan's land mass. Some 27,000 U.S. troops are stationed there.

After 85,000 Okinawans attended a protest rally last fall, the U.S. and Japan moved to address the issue.
Okinawa Gov. Masahide Ota, who led the protest movement and refused to sign lease extensions on some land, indicated Friday night that returning Futenma was a positive step. He called it "a great decision" with "very symbolic meaning."

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