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Post time 2011-4-4 00:00:28 |Display all floors
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Post time 2011-4-4 00:19:37 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Wahahaha at 2011-4-4 00:00


Well pay for it.  WHY is it that your country can commit criminal wrongdoings time and time again without having to suffer the consequences (other than sending an unrepresentative see-eye-A age ...


So you see these attacks against UN workers as pay back?  None of them were americans.

Do you realize how many thousands of americans who died in iraq?  How many more thousands were maimed and injured?

Just what will satisfy you as a pay back?

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Post time 2011-4-4 00:35:21 |Display all floors
Originally posted by JFenix at 2011-4-2 07:25
Do you think killing people over some nutty preacher burning a book is an appropriate response?

Its just a book.

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10 vs. 200,000

JFenix, why would you not ask yourself?

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Post time 2011-4-4 00:52:22 |Display all floors
Originally posted by timbatu at 2011-4-4 00:35

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10 vs. 200,000

JFenix, why would you not ask yourself?


What are you talking about?

Do you think it's cool to kill people, even be-head them in response to some fanatic nutjob in florida?

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Post time 2011-4-4 01:20:07 |Display all floors
Originally posted by JFenix at 2011-4-4 00:52


What are you talking about?

Do you think it's cool to kill people, even be-head them in response to some fanatic nutjob in florida?

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I am sure that you know what I am talking about. Otherwise, you would not persecute Jillian Assange.

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Post time 2011-4-4 03:49:13 |Display all floors
Originally posted by timbatu at 2011-4-4 01:20

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I am sure that you know what I am talking about. Otherwise, you would not persecute Jillian Assange.


Jillian is a girls name.

But since you bring him up......from the documents that he published, it was made clear who was responsible for the majority of civilian deaths - and it wasn't the US.  In fact the number wasn't even close.

But that is a topic for another thread right?  This topic is about a nutty pastor and the crazed lunatics that went into a rage started killing people.

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Post time 2011-4-4 03:57:16 |Display all floors
Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan— One clear beneficiary has emerged from the wave of deadly riots that swept Afghanistan after members of a Florida evangelical church burned a copy of the Koran: the Taliban.

The insurgents, according to Afghan and Western officials, have been able to exploit the ongoing tumult, using riots as cover for attacks against Western and government targets and reaping propaganda benefits by allying themselves with popular fury over the desecration of the Muslim holy book.

Moreover, the violence has fueled tensions among NATO allies, Western diplomats say, sparked as it was by an American figure, albeit a fringe one. The riots have tapped a well of anti-foreign and particularly anti-American sentiment that exists even among Afghans who do not condone the deaths that have occurred.

On Sunday, Afghans took to the streets for a third straight day, in Jalalabad and Kandahar, to protest last month's torching of a copy of the Koran by followers of Terry Jones, a Gainesville, Fla.-based pastor. Officials in Kandahar reported at least two more deaths and dozens of injuries; the Jalalabad protest, though angry and impassioned, was largely peaceful.

The latest fatalities brought the three-day death toll to 22: seven U.N. workers and four demonstrators killed on Friday when rioters stormed their compound in Mazar-e-Sharif after mosque preachers inveighed against the Koran burning, and at least nine people killed in daylong rioting Saturday in Kandahar, the spiritual home of the Taliban movement.

The protests, which have touched virtually every major Afghan city, not only showed the hair-trigger sensibilities associated with any insult to Islam in this deeply conservative society but also illustrated the gulf between Western and Afghan precepts regarding free speech and civil liberties.

Many Afghans, including some sophisticated urban dwellers, were baffled by the notion that what they considered an overt act of blasphemy could be considered a permissible expression of political opinion.

"How can you do something that you know is going to cause violence and not be held accountable?" said Sayeed Humayoun, a Kabul teacher. "Even my littlest pupils know better than this."

President Hamid Karzai, as so often happens, appeared caught between the expectations of his Western patrons and the desire to avoid appearing complicit with foreigners at the expense of his own people. He offered condolences over the U.N. deaths even as he reiterated demands Sunday that those involved in the Koran burning be punished.

The Taliban had no need to tread any such fine line. In a statement Sunday, the movement depicted the West as infidels and Karzai's security forces as "hirelings" doing foreigners' bidding in their attempts to quell the violence.

"Americans wanted to give pain to the Muslim people by burning the holy Koran, and now they kill the courageous Afghans who stand in favor of the Koran," the Taliban statement said.

Senior Western officials in Afghanistan have been urgently seeking Karzai's assistance in calming passions. U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry, together with Gen. David Petraeus, the American commander of Western forces in Afghanistan, and Mark Sedwill, the senior NATO civilian representative, met with Karzai, the president's office said Sunday.

Both Afghan and Western officials cited mounting evidence that insurgents had seized the opportunity to infiltrate crowds of demonstrators in both Kandahar and Mazar-e-Sharif, concealing themselves among those who otherwise might have marched relatively peacefully.

Staffan de Mistura, the head of the U.N. mission in Afghanistan, said the three Europeans who died in the Mazar-e-Sharif compound were not victims of random mob violence but were hunted down in the bunker where they had taken refuge. Afghan officials, who have made dozens of arrests in connection with the assault, said evidence so far suggested that the main instigators were allied with the insurgency.

The Western alliance has publicly presented a united front in the face of the violence, unequivocally condemning the killings while criticizing any desecration of religious texts. But some European diplomats have sought to distance themselves from what they privately describe as an American-inspired crisis.

U.N. officials have asserted repeatedly that the world body's compound in Mazar-e-Sharif presented a target of convenience.

"The demonstration did not attack the American consulate … because the American consulate has not been opened yet, and it was diverted instead toward the U.N. building," De Mistura told reporters. He called the Koran burning an "insane and totally despicable gesture by one person."

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