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Post time 2010-12-16 22:22:19 |Display all floors
They are both very congested, even more congested than many Chinese cities.


I don't know about Japan, but in the US, traffic jam is totally diffrent from Beijing: in Beijing, it's like cars are not moving at all - it's faster to walk than to drive! In the US, it's moving slowly (at least from what I've seen in New York and in Chicago). However, Beijing is just an extreme case - other Chinese cities are much better. In Chengdu, for instance, traffic jams occur only twice a day on a few lanes and you can avoid them if you know the city.

However, even if there are no traffic jams, traffic in China is much slower than in the west - there are much more traffic lights and much less tunnels, cars have to take care of people and bicycle even on the main roads (ok, this got better in Beijing in some places now, but it's still a pain - and in other cities, it's a disaster). So what the goverment really could do would be strictly seperate cars from other traffic participants on the main lanes and build real motorways to and from city center. Moreover, of course, it should enforce traffic law more strictly, so people don't just drive however they want.

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Post time 2010-12-16 22:23:12 |Display all floors

Reply #14 timbatu's post

a few days?

seen the mother of all traffic jams?

Right, that was here in China, of course.

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Post time 2010-12-16 22:26:27 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Everynowhere at 2010-12-16 22:22


So what the goverment really could do would be strictly seperate cars from other traffic participants on the main lanes and build real motorways to and from city center.


If you are a bit interested into traffic planning, read yourself into the dutch "shared space" concept!

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Post time 2010-12-16 22:32:24 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Everynowhere at 2010-12-16 22:22
I don't know about Japan, but in the US, traffic jam is totally diffrent from Beijing: in Beijing, it's like cars are not moving at all - it's faster to walk than to drive! In the US, it's movi ...


You need to live in the US for a while and work as normal Americans. So that you will personally experience the "no moving" traffic jam daily in the US. For example, there is a place called Tyson's Corners near Falls Church which is not far from the Chinese embassy outside DC. Go to see everyday between 4pm and 7pm.

The idea of using private cars for work is very bad. The idea of living far away from work is also very bad. Both caused timed congestion and both waste money and energy. Both are very bad for China.

China use to have companies arrange employee living sections in the backyard of the office building. This tradition is great to conserve energy, and reduce traffic jam.

The problem is really rooted in Chinese ignorance and/or poor understanding of the West.

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Post time 2010-12-16 22:37:25 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2010-12-16 13:42
In any European city the car density is twice to five times that of Beijing or Shanghai, yet traffic moves, and nary any motorists drive in the bus-only lanes or on sidewalks. ...

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Then why you don't choose Europe to stay, but came to China, snakey?

Because Europeans can't give you life dignity?

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Post time 2010-12-16 22:40:27 |Display all floors
Originally posted by liuyedao at 2010-12-16 22:37

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Then why you don't choose Europe to stay, but came to China, snakey?

Because Europeans can't give you life dignity?


Yes, he is Chinese looking, and he totally hates himself. So he has to live in China to bully what he is indoctrinated as "inferior people" from his white supremacist church.

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Post time 2010-12-16 22:41:09 |Display all floors

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Originally posted by timbatu at 2010-12-16 22:32
You need to live in the US for a while and work as normal Americans. So that you will personally experience the "no moving" traffic jam daily in the US. For example, there is a place called Tyson's Corners near Falls Church which is not far from the Chinese embassy outside DC. Go to see everyday between 4pm and 7pm.

The idea of using private cars for work is very bad. The idea of living far away from work is also very bad. Both caused timed congestion and both waste money and energy. Both are very bad for China.

China use to have companies arrange employee living sections in the backyard of the office building. This tradition is great to conserve energy, and reduce traffic jam.

The problem is really rooted in Chinese ignorance and/or poor understanding of the West.

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