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WHAT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE US?

Yes, we have massacred and rape our own.  And many times even ate our own babies.  How terrible!

But what has that any of your business?  Didn't we suffered enough?  And you have caused it all!

Isn't it standing to reason that we should judge you?  And even if we should be judged, shouldn't it be someone among ourselves to do so?

Yes, I am talking about the Japan's War Crime Trial and how the only one among us, who did not fought on the West's side: an Indian Judge named Radhabinod Pal, judged.  This is his verdict:

"I would hold that every one of the accused must be found not guilty of every one of the charges in the indictment and should be acquitted on all those charges."

He argued that the United States had clearly provoked the war with Japan and expected Japan to act.  Further, he believed that the exclusion of Western colonialism and the use of the atom bomb by the United States from the list of crimes, and judges from the vanquished nations on the bench, signified the "failure of the Tribunal to provide anything other than the opportunity for the victors to retaliate."  Fear of American nuclear power was an international phenomenon following the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

He consider, any nation, not just Japan "would have taken up arms against the United States on receipt of such a note (Hull note) as the State Department sent the Japanese Government on the eve of Pearl Harbor.'"

The Hull note:

"""On November 25 Henry L. Stimson, United States Secretary of War noted in his diary that he had discussed with US President Franklin D. Roosevelt the severe likelihood that Japan was about to launch a surprise attack, and that the question had been "how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.'"

On the following day, November 26, 1941, Hull presented the Japanese ambassador with the Hull note, which as one of its conditions demanded the complete withdrawal of all Japanese troops from French Indochina and China. It did not refer to Manchukuo, in which hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians were already living. Japanese Prime Minister Tojo Hideki said to his cabinet, "this is an ultimatum."

Jonathan Daniels, President Roosevelt's administrative assistant at the time, noted Roosevelt's subsequent reaction to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor - "The blow was heavier than he had hoped it would necessarily be. ... But the risks paid off; even the loss was worth the price. ..."

Some modern Japanese commentators say the note was designed to draw Japan into war and thus claim Japan was not the aggressor nation in the Pacific War. Toshio Tamogami, who was the Japan Air Self-Defense Force chief of staff, was sacked by the Japanese government in 2008 for taking this position."""

Judge Pal's typewritten book-length opposition to the decision was formally prohibited from publication by the Occupation forces and was released in 1952 after the occupation ended and a treaty recognizing the legitimacy of the Tokyo Trials was signed by Japan.  The American occupation of Japan ended in 1952, after Tokyo signed the San Francisco Peace Treaty and accepted the Tokyo trials' verdict.
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Another load of trash from a Han Jian.

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Post time 2010-11-8 20:44:14 |Display all floors
Originally posted by sansukong at 2010-11-8 02:54 AM
Another load of trash from a Han Jian.


check out the " Frank Capra's Academy Award-winning movie series Why We Fight, the installments The Battle of China and Prelude to War ".  may be that's more to ur taste and deep jammed in ur brain.

but here is the ugly truth:

THE TANAKA MEMORIAL FOR JAPAN'S WORLD CONQUEST WAS A FORGERY!

The Tanaka Memorial was depicted extensively by United States wartime propaganda as a sort of Japanese counterpart of Mein Kampf. Frank Capra's Academy Award-winning movie series Why We Fight, the installments The Battle of China and Prelude to War describe the Tanaka Memorial as the document that was the Japanese plan for war with the United States. As presented in Battle of China, the four sequential steps to achieve Japan's goal of conquests are

   1. Conquest of Manchuria
   2. Conquest of China
   3. Establishment of bases in the Pacific
   4. Conquest of the United States

Meirion Harries, state just as unequivocally that the Tanaka Memorial "...was one of the most successful “dirty tricks” of the twentieth century – a bogus document so brilliantly conceived that thirty years later Westerns were still being taken in by it".

When the Allies searched for incriminating documents to support war crime charges following the surrender of Japan, no drafts or copies of anything corresponding to the Tanaka Memorial appeared among them; a Japanese language "original" has never been produced despite extensive research efforts. Almost all academic historians now regard the Memorial as a forgery.

In 1939, Peter Fleming claimed to have produced an ‘update’ to the Tanaka Memorial, by writing an imaginary report on a secret Allied strategy conference attended by Kuomintang leader Chiang Kai-Shek, and having it leaked to the Japanese. This indicates that the Tanaka Memorial was known to be a forgery by the British prior to World War II.

Newspapers and school textbooks in the People's Republic of China still mention the Tanaka Memorial as factual. However, most Japanese historians contend that the document is a forgery.

On January 1, 2008, a Japanese newspaper Tokyo Shimbun reported that a Chinese historian group considered the "Tanaka Memorial" to be of dubious authenticity and suggested that the majority of Chinese historians regard the document as a forgery, in a collaborative research meeting held in September 2007.
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but here is the ugly truth:

THE TANAKA MEMORIAL FOR JAPAN'S WORLD CONQUEST WAS A FORGERY .....


Half a century plus more than two decades  ... still no word of "SORRY" from the short legs and crooked legs



I DON'T GIVE A DAMN !
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What I said, remains.

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Post time 2010-11-9 13:17:33 |Display all floors
"an Indian Judge named Radhabinod Pal, judged.  This is his verdict:"
Stupid arguement.
India was spared the brutal Japanese invasion because of the 2 A bombs,
if  Indians had suffered  the same war atrocities of the Japanese,
he would have condemned those war criminals too,
and perhaps louder than all other victims of Japanese war crimes.
Please don't shoot, I'm just a babe.

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Post time 2010-11-9 13:58:14 |Display all floors
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