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Manoj, what it means India starts developing 5th gen plane?? [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2010-10-28 06:10:15 |Display all floors
Originally posted by manoj10 at 2010-10-28 01:22



Haha...you helped us ?. Oh let me sit on the couch...what other loads of lies you have in that bag of yours. You can't fool me. Unlike the Paki's who are just half breeds we are th ...


wow Manure it is no wonder the white man laughs at you indians, you lot are just like the filthy jews, you will accept all the sh1t the white man gives you amd will serve him well and help him conquer your own land as well as other peoples land serve in their forces and accept all the crap that they throw at you, and people that share some common language with you, you will call them halfbreeds, your country has the most oppressive class system known to man, you are no more than a parasite willing to live off the hard work of others, maybe you think that you are a Brahman? give me an untouchable anytime, better than the smell of Manure.

so the 5th generation Indian plane has been upgraded to rubber band power? wow, i did hear that Prince Phillip made a few comments about it.

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Post time 2010-10-28 07:18:36 |Display all floors

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My opinion: The LCA is no more but a miniaturized replica of the Mirage-2000. It takes after the Mirage-2000's delta wing coupled with some pretty weird and not-very aerodynamic British trait therefore I doubt it's a very efficient air frame anything above Mach speed. The MCA also looks extremely British. It likely got the tailess idea from a similar British program from back in the 80's but never gotten off of the drawing board. That said, our A-5 workhorse have its genetics traced to the MiG-19 or J-6 while our J-8 is a spin offs of a what were initially the MiG-21/J-7 while others even say it (the J-8I) actually takes after some canceled Soviet program of the 70's so nothing wrong with with replications Mr., manoj. I mean hell! We're damn proud of our A-5, our J-6, J7's and 8's and of course our JH-7 an attempt at the a marriage between a MiG-23/Panava Tornado and so should you of your MCA now being tested in Russia...
Putin's a killer. This was the claim made by Fox News journalist; Bill O'Reilly during his recent interview with Donald Trump. Trump's reply came in the form of a simple question. What, you think our country's so innocent?

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Post time 2010-10-28 07:44:16 |Display all floors

Originally posted by edisonone at 2010-10-28 03:01 AM


Please take note, manoj: In 62, the odds was 400,000 verses a mere 40,000 over two major fronts and the numbers clearly was in your favor.  


What a misquoting of facts. The amount of Indian army in Aksai China and in Aru na chal pradesh is less than 4000 combined. Most of the Indian army was tied on the border with Pakistan and the rest of them are well in their barracks in the heartland of India. Edison is quoting as if though India know the detailed plan of China's invasion long before the attack. If they were alerted the Chinese won't have progressed.

Originally posted by edisonone at 2010-10-28 03:01 AM
Both armies were poorly equipted. You guys were starving because supplies can't reach you. The Chinese were a little better at surviving because the PLA was accustomed to the harsh and bleak environments of China's far west where winters are routinely at -40 or better in the thinly oxygenated airs of the Tibetan plateau.


This cannot be accepted as a fact. The Chinese were preparing for an invasion atleast for 6 months with every detailed plans being made of infantry advance, artillery support and logistics. On the other hand the Indian army's logistical capability couldn't even able to supply on a normal basis as it was considered to be the less threat area.

Our friend Edison is deliberately trying to look that the war started with even ratio. The path of Chinese army advances only had to encounter border posts of Indian soldiers with a mere strength of 50 to 100 soldiers just resembling a speed breaker against a Chinese wave of 800 to 1000 army men attacking in successive new waves. The only significant concentration of a brigade was on the plains of Assam where the Chinese meekly came around the hill pretending as civilians taken by surprise. In the middle of chaos " Chinese army commanders what they exactly have to do, on the other hand Indian army was hit by Nehru's pacifism, intial chaos and no one exactly know what they have to do.
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From the memoirs of fallen soldiers :

"The regiment has many heroic exploits to its credit. One of these, the last stand of Company C, 13 Kumaon Regiment at Rezang La has been placed in the ten most heroic stands in history along with the Defence of Saragarhi and Battle of Alamo. Of the 118 men at Rezang La, 109 men laid down their lives, 5 men were captured and only 4 men returned alive"

" The Chinese started pouring into the line with new waves of fresh troops, supply and artillery. We replled 7 waves of Chinese attack party with strength of  at least 800 men with our mere strength of 118 men. However at the eighth time we already lost the energy to fight them but still we repelled the 9th Chinese wave. But at the 10th wave they had additional artillery and tank support and we already exhausted our ammunition. By that time the commander grabbed their sword and cut down atleast 20 Chinese soldiers before he was overpowered."


There were similar events all across the region. The high casualities of Indian soldiers were due to their stubbornness of not giving up when they were even being overpowered. The only large surrender took place when the Chinese came around the hill with clear plan of encircling an already confused regiment in the eastern sector.

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Post time 2010-10-28 07:45:34 |Display all floors

Originally posted by edisonone at 2010-10-28 03:01 AM


Please take note, manoj: In 62, the odds was 400,000 verses a mere 40,000 over two major fronts and the numbers clearly was in your favor.  


What a misquoting of facts. The amount of Indian army in Aksai China and in Aru na chal pradesh is less than 4000 combined. Most of the Indian army was tied on the border with Pakistan and the rest of them are well in their barracks in the heartland of India. Edison is quoting as if though India know the detailed plan of China's invasion long before the attack. If they were alerted the Chinese won't have progressed.

Originally posted by edisonone at 2010-10-28 03:01 AM
Both armies were poorly equipped. You guys were starving because supplies can't reach you. The Chinese were a little better at surviving because the PLA was accustomed to the harsh and bleak environments of China's far west where winters are routinely at -40 or better in the thinly oxygenated airs of the Ti b  et an plateau.


This cannot be accepted as a fact. The Chinese were preparing for an invasion atleast for 6 months with every detailed plans being made of infantry advance, artillery support and logistics. On the other hand the Indian army's logistical capability couldn't even able to supply on a normal basis as it was considered to be the less threat area.

Our friend Edison is deliberately trying to make it look that the war started with even ratio. The path of Chinese army advances only had to encounter border posts of Indian soldiers with a mere strength of 50 to 100 soldiers just resembling a speed breaker against a Chinese wave of 800 to 1000 army men attacking in successive new waves. The only significant concentration of a brigade was on the plains of Assam where the Chinese meekly came around the hill pretending as civilians taken by surprise. In the middle of chaos " Chinese army commanders know what they exactly have to do, on the other hand Indian army was hit by Nehru's pacifism, intial chaos and no one exactly know what they have to do, whether to protect the cities, civilians, oil installations.

From the memoirs of fallen soldiers :

"The regiment has many heroic exploits to its credit. One of these, the last stand of Company C, 13 Kumaon Regiment at Rezang La has been placed in the ten most heroic stands in history along with the Defence of Saragarhi and Battle of Alamo. Of the 118 men at Rezang La, 109 men laid down their lives, 5 men were captured and only 4 men returned alive"

" The Chinese started pouring into the line with new waves of fresh troops, supply and artillery. We repelled 7 waves of Chinese attack party with strength of  at least 800 men with our mere strength of 118 men. However at the eighth time we already lost half the strength but still we repelled the 9th Chinese wave. But at the 10th wave they had additional artillery and tank support and we already exhausted our ammunition. By that time the commander grabbed his sword and cut down atleast 20 Chinese soldiers before he was overpowered."


There were similar events all across the region. The high causalities of Indian soldiers were due to their stubbornness of not giving up when they were even being overpowered. The only large surrender took place when the Chinese came around the hill with clear plan of encircling an already confused regiment in the eastern sector.


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Post time 2010-10-28 12:04:19 |Display all floors

Originally posted by edisonone at 2010-10-28 03:01 AM
And yes, manoj: The PAK-FA, my opinion, is your "second alternative to the realizing of your dream which is  your MCA.  No shame in admitting that!


There is nothing shame in that. It was a technology derived from the joint project in which both nations have natural rights to be entitled for. Further it is much better than getting the jets under license and reverse engineering it. India did what it was entitled to. :)

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Post time 2010-10-28 12:06:56 |Display all floors

Originally posted by dragon1958 at 2010-10-28 03:40 AM


maybe you think that you are a Brahman?

so the 5th generation Indian plane has been upgraded to rubber band power? wow, i did hear that Prince Phillip made a few comments about it


Haha.,..You really wanted me to reply to that piece of sh1t post of yours.

BTW it was very funny to call me a Brahman as I eat meat almost everyday

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Post time 2010-10-28 12:41:01 |Display all floors
Originally posted by BingSilk at 2010-10-27 11:14 PM
I heard the original Kaveri core got gutted and replaced by snecma core.

do you how to improve upon the snecma core?  since you didn't build the snecma core , it would tough to change someone else stuffs.


There were some technical problems with Kaveri in 2004 and the contract was awarded to SNECMA among other competitors to oversee the problems of Kaveri engine. US air force general's in 2006 gave comment that Kaveri is a true world class engine which is having little problems as it was India's first step into the big world. Kaveri isn't built on SNECMA core instead SNECMA had almost finished elimination some technical defects in the new engine. And Kaveri would be ready for production by 2011-12.

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