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big difference whether a country can make a Carrier Strike group from scratch. [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2010-9-22 15:18:43 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Kbay at 2010-9-22 14:36
I agree with BingSilk that China should construct a small fleet of small carriers.

It needs to project a show of force in moment of international crisis.

Just think if China had this fleet... ...


And just think an American carrier fleet meeting them there....^^
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Post time 2010-9-22 15:20:18 |Display all floors
carrier are easy targets for subs....at least for German class 212 A submarines.....they proved it during a drill by "sinking" an US carrier.
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Post time 2010-9-23 12:04:35 |Display all floors

Reply #3 kongque's post

A nation 1/56th the size of China in both population and in landmass with the smarts and industrious cunning to make superpower status (WWII standards) is a far cry from the term "no big deal" because, "IT IS A MIGHTY BIG DEAL". No argument their (Japan's) industriousness are reminiscent with that of and which shares trait-markers with those of the achievements of Qin Chinese for which they are said descendants. Now, are present day Chinese descendant's of the mighty Qin's? We'll see.
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Post time 2010-9-23 12:21:15 |Display all floors

Reply #11 Alex2010's post

Which is why I said umptieth of times that it (carriers) are useful only for attacking small nations that have no means of fighting back, i.e., Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosevo, the Sudan, the Philippines, Indonesia, and, of course -- Vietnam is a must of a target...  

But, carrier for carrier, I think Russia have it right, medium carriers, i.e., the Varyag does make for the better of the sense than super carriers such as the USS George Washington because 2 carriers definitely have a greater survival rate than a single giant sized carrier...
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Post time 2010-9-24 12:12:42 |Display all floors

Reply #13 edisonone's post

The AWAC jet is the big problem!
Smaller carrier, those 20,000 tonnes ship, don't have the size to carry the AWAC jet!
The AWAC jet, flying at 40,000 feet is almost crucial in today's combat missions!

It can see further than surface ships, and it could see further than jet fighters!

The 40,000 tonnes ship is a compromise, but the 60,000 tonne ship is very useful - can carry on board BIG AIRCRAFT, and bigger runway!

The J-XX helps to reduce such problem, while a VSTOL Awac plane could just do as well, i reckon! We also need to have the 12,000 tonnes cruiser ships, with ASAT capabilities. Even small states, can launch mini satellites and gain valuable information!

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Post time 2010-9-24 12:15:01 |Display all floors

Escorting SSN, and the non existent Cruiser battleship

.........anti air, anti surface, anti submarine Frigates plus the flexible Supply ships are also needed!

heck!

Maybe Mini satellite lauching capability too!

ha ha ha

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Post time 2010-9-25 04:43:26 |Display all floors

Reply #14 greendragon's post

The KJ-2000's are land based and have ranges in that of an International Airliner. Carrier AWAC systems are light systems similar to scout planes. I have never seen an AWAC in a Boeing 707 platform or in a IL platform take off from or land on a carrier.
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