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Post time 2010-7-29 11:30:34 |Display all floors



Man! The process is mammoth isn't it?
I never though it requires this many square footage just to churn
out some engines for the J-10 and 11B...


中国将三代战机发动机寿命延长到1500小时(1)

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工厂职工投入工作。龙振华 摄

    新华网消息:近年来,空军五七一九工厂完成了63项科研成果,20多项获得国家、军队科技进步奖,自主创新的军用航空发动机再制造技术达到国际先进水平,发动机修理能力成倍增长。

    经他们维修的某新型军用航空发动机使用寿命大幅延长,1台发挥了1.6台的作用,取得了巨大的国防军事、经济和社会效益。

Ukraine! Yes, Ukraine! Let's get some from the
Ukraine cos it'll speedy de gonzalas thing up...  especially if if
many of these are going to be exported anyhow...


Putin's a killer. This was the claim made by Fox News journalist; Bill O'Reilly during his recent interview with Donald Trump. Trump's reply came in the form of a simple question. What, you think our country's so innocent?

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Post time 2010-7-29 15:58:14 |Display all floors
Originally posted by edisonone at 2010-7-29 10:27
Bottom line is this: The F-22 and F-35 was implemented because of concerns the Pentagon have over the J-10 because they initially thought the J-10 was a Lavi.  But, the J-10 is far in advance of the Lavi because the Lavi is essentially nothing more than just another F-16 exactly as that of Japan's F-2 but with preferred Israeli appointments in it.


To counter J-10?  You must been drinking too much
Before F-22, the air superiority fighter was the F-15 , but the flanker was able to match the F-15 therefore US decided to have  to upgrade its air superiority fighter.  F-16 is the low cost version which J-10 is equivalent.      F-22 has nothing to do with the J-10, and had more to do with the flanker with respect to F-15.

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Post time 2010-7-29 17:56:37 |Display all floors

That's BS China lags behind even Japan!

If you look at the Japanese navy, you will see 5 "almost carriers". The Japanese have no qualms about building huge, offensive oriented ships, and naming them as defensive "frigates". Look how long it's taking China to build even just ONE 071 ship!!!! And only ONE! That junk of a vagyag is sitting there slowly getting its paint job.....Let me tell you, the problem isn't China's military, it's the civilian technocrats like Hu and Wen who care more about their own hold on power, and their fear of foreigners. They dont listen to the Chinese military, which is very dangerous for China.

The problem is that China's civilian leaders are so scared of foreigners, like the US and japan, that they are even willing to mortgage China's own defense for the sake of "da jue"!!!!! With all the money, and a weak military, China is no better than the late Qing, just waiting to get beaten up again. Why does the US fear offending Russia, who is so much poorer, and have no problem humiliating China by sending its survey ships and nuke armed carriers right up to China's front, back, side doors? Why does China care about what others think when it builds a big ship? Does China's civilian goverment actually have a brain, or are they so afraid because most of them have hidden bank accounts overseas, and their children "studying" inforeign countries. The problems of corruption is so deep and dangerous.

China's navy is just like China's football team....thanks to the Chinese government. Both Japan and India, and even S Korea have stronger, better quality and better trained navies than the rag tag fleets of China. mike

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Post time 2010-7-29 22:37:52 |Display all floors
Originally posted by mikel at 2010-7-29 01:56
If you look at the Japanese navy, you will see 5 "almost carriers". The Japanese have no qualms about building huge, offensive oriented ships, and naming them as defensive "frigates& ...


Japan today is not its own man. In my book, what you hear
from Japan today, essentially, equals to nothing more than what "the
Americans are saying in its various and none obvious ways".

Similarly, don't expect for even Obama to be his own man.
In my book, Obama is merely but a draftee for the high office and the purpose for
his being placed there: To win back the hearts Black Africa.  He's failing miserably in
that respect. I suspect he will be out soon as this term is up.

In military strategy, one does not need to meet an opponent spear by spear
and arrow by arrow because that would be an impossible task. In true military
strategy, you find your opponents strengths and you try to zoom in on those strengths and
you try to break that monopoly it have over you. China's doing fine in that era.

We don't need any F-22's of our own, all we need is to work on how
to neutralize it.  We don't need Super Carriers, all we need to do is how to render it
pointless.  We don't need to have all those precision guided munitions, all we need to do
is to knock out the apparatuses (satellites) which guides it to its target...

[ Last edited by edisonone at 2010-7-29 06:54 AM ]
Putin's a killer. This was the claim made by Fox News journalist; Bill O'Reilly during his recent interview with Donald Trump. Trump's reply came in the form of a simple question. What, you think our country's so innocent?

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Post time 2010-7-29 23:11:14 |Display all floors
[quote]Originally posted by antimatter at 2010-7-28 23:58


To counter J-10?  You must been drinking too much
Before F-22, the air superiority fighter was the F-15 , but the flanker was able to match the F-15 therefore US decided to have  to upgrade it ... [/quot

Unlike Fumanchu, I'm no drunkard .  I'm a very very serious person. The J-10 does take after the Eurofighter and the Grippen.

Aside from the difference of number of engines, The similarity is unparalell.

We have no need to copy outdated F-16's or Lavi. That a job for the FC-1 .

We Chinese are very choosy and discriminative at what we like.

American designs have never really interest us that much. We always choose the best and the sharpest.

American teen series of fighter is a notch below the J-10, and now even a notch below the J-11B and the J-15.   Flash: http://bbs.chnqiang.com/viewthread.php?tid=196504&extra=page%3D1  That is why Russia is b*tching and why America is building F-15SE, F-22's, and F-35's. But you will not hear this from the US military because it's moral damaging.  

Even yourb F-22 is noe a great big question mark:
Flash: https:////jiangshuai.com/%e4%b8%8d%e4%bf%a1%e4%bd%a0%e6%9dhttp:%a5%e8%af%95%e8%af%95%ef%bc%9a%e7%be%8e%e5%86%9b300%e6%9e%b6f22%e8%bf%9b%e4%b8%ad%e5%9b%bd%e6%9c%89%e6%9d%a5%e6%97%a0%e5%9b%9e
Because its stealth advantage has been brokened.


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Post time 2010-7-29 23:57:48 |Display all floors

ok, so all you need is

to make the f-22 and the super carriers "pointless". Ok, then, once you make them pointless, how do you propose China defends its interests? How do you porpose China take back the Diaoyu or the South Sea? oh, I forget.....China can "harmonize" and "jointly develop" everything??????????This is such bull crap...a defeatist and wimpy atitude.

You are just trying to justify the weak attitude of the corrupt Chinese governemt. The current government  has become as corrupt and incompetent in foreign affairs as the Late Qing....nothing has changed, and no improvement. Like the Qing, beijing is very quick to use money to "harmonize" any conflict. That is why China gets no respect from even weak countries like Malaysia and Indonesia.

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Post time 2010-7-30 07:12:13 |Display all floors

Peace to the humanity.

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