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Post time 2010-7-11 09:41:53 |Display all floors
Originally posted by felix292 at 2010-7-11 04:29



Which is meaningless

If the US hit China with a massive conventional strike China would respond with nuclear weapons.

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1)China do not have first strike doctine

2)China launching first nuke strike ==Suicide for the nation.   US has 20X more warhead.  Incoming chinese warheads probably got intercepted.

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Post time 2010-7-11 10:24:07 |Display all floors
Originally posted by antimatter at 2010-7-11 09:41


1)China do not have first strike doctine

2)China launching first nuke strike ==Suicide for the nation.   US has 20X more warhead.  Incoming chinese warheads probably got intercepted.


It is suicide for the world

China has enough nukes to destroy the US. It does not need to be able to destroy the US 10X over does it


240 warheads hitting the major US cities will be enough to cause the collapse of the US government, economy and society

2400 warheads will kill nearly everyone in the US, which realistically is not needed.

As for the not having a first strike doctrine, I think such things are only publically announced to make the public feel better. In a war where the Chinese mainland has been struck, China will hit back with what it can, conventional if they can, if not it would use nukes

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Post time 2010-7-11 11:33:13 |Display all floors
Originally posted by felix292 at 2010-7-10 18:24


It is suicide for the world

China has enough nukes to destroy the US. It does not need to be able to destroy the US 10X over does it


240 warheads hitting the major US cities will be eno ...


My Guesstimate:

240  (Jin)     [Size=-4][12 launcher; 4 MIRV each; 5 boats]
012  (Xia)     [Size=-4][12 launcher; single warhead; one boat]
024  (Silo)    [Size=-4][Central China]
024  (DF-31)   [Size=-4][Single warheads roughly couple of dozen]
075  (DF-31A)   [Size=-4][300 missiles in total; boasted as up to 6 MIRV; We'll allow 25% as nuke armed)
024  (DF-41/41A)    [Size=-4][12 of each]
125  (Cruise Missiles)    [Size=-4][I'd speculate 500 but again, 25% nuke armed]
300  (DF-21/21A & DF-25)   [Size=-4][Taiwan alone faces 1500. this number nukes and claimed as 3 MIRV again 25%]
500  (H-6/JH-7/A-5)   [Size=-4][Actual A-Bb's and H-Bb's & Air launch tactical nukes]
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1324  (Ball park figure)

Again, above represents my personal wild a-ss
figure only and does not imply total stockpile but rather total
deliverable units via above stated combined means.



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Post time 2010-7-11 13:30:37 |Display all floors
^it's so wrong on so many levels.
PLAN only has 2 094 and not all its launcher are filled with nuke tipped missiles.

none of its cruise missils are nuke tipped.

you are basically equating  Missiles == nuke war headed.   80% of those missiles you mentioned are with conventional warheads.

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Post time 2010-7-11 15:29:43 |Display all floors
Originally posted by felix292 at 2010-7-11 10:24


It is suicide for the world

China has enough nukes to destroy the US. It does not need to be able to destroy the US 10X over does it


240 warheads hitting the major US cities will be eno ...


1)CHinese nuke missiles when launched would be immediatelly spotted and will shot down by bases in Japan, Guam.
2)If the missile passed Japan, the Aegis ship in pacific will try to shoot it down.
3)If missile made it through and reaching Alaska, ground base interception in Alaska will try to shoot it down
4)finally if missile through alaska and reach US west coast, the ground base interception in wc will try to shoot it down.

Basically, in order for Chinese missiles to reach US west coast, they need to go through 5 to 6 layers of defense and will be liable to shot down.

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Post time 2010-7-11 20:20:11 |Display all floors
Originally posted by felix292 at 2010-7-10 12:29



Which is meaningless

If the US hit China with a massive conventional strike China would respond with nuclear weapons.

The only reason the US would hit China in such a way is if they we ...


if they do dare to pull a bluff on us, you can bet then that it'll be guaranteed to turn ugly and; if live fires are exchanged, then you can bet that it won't be no chenon incident -- you can then bet that it'll turn full blown and that means tridents, pershings, minuitemans, and jl-2's and df's of all platforms to be flying everywhichway...

they aren't impregnable no more as were in the case of the past because of the vast seas and oceans that gives it it's advantage... they are noe equally as vulnerable as everyone else...

and, as per statement made by this chinese general, hitting any chinese assets/real estates, sea, ground, or air, qualifies as hitting china itself and as such, deep down, they know that there's no such a thing as conventional war.  





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Post time 2010-7-11 20:44:00 |Display all floors
Originally posted by antimatter at 2010-7-10 23:29


1)CHinese nuke missiles when launched would be immediatelly spotted and will shot down by bases in Japan, Guam.
2)If the missile passed Japan, the Aegis ship in pacific will try to shoot it do ...


and if they get pass [level 4], which 10% are guaranteed the estimated survival rate for any nukes of any nation [Size=-4](reason for the excessive overkill number of nuke arsenals in both the u.s. and russian inventory in olden days), then there are still [level 5] which these df's just can't breach and [level 5] is our very own forum anti-chinese intern [Size=-4][ mr. anti-matter-the-hot-air-balloon-himself ] :)...  current technology however are way more advance making survival rate of modern icbm's practically fool proof which is why both russia and the u.s, has signed a pack to reduce their nuke down to size, triple digits as is opposed to thousand and tens of thousands.
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