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Post time 2010-6-26 19:42:54 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Alex2010 at 2010-6-25 15:34
Never liked "hongloumeng"...won`t watch the new version. I`m waiting for a version of "Jinpingmei" ^^
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BTW, Jinpingmei is an ancient Chinese porn novel. Its story is about a Song Dynasty affair between the wife of a folk hero and the son of a rich businessman. I think a short script of this novel was translated into a HK movie. But the movie is rated XXX.

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Post time 2010-6-26 20:06:09 |Display all floors
Originally posted by timbatu at 2010-6-26 19:42
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BTW, Jinpingmei is an ancient Chinese porn novel. Its story is about a Song Dynasty affair between the wife of a folk hero and the son of a rich businessman. I think a short script of this nov ...


Gosh, do you think I`d mention it if I hadn`t read it? And it`s not just a plain "porn novel". It has everything a good book should have...crime,murder,love,sex,action,.......and it gives a good insight in how the Ming society looked like (although the story takes place in the Song dynasty it was written during Ming and the author just exchanged dynasties for writing more freely about what happened in his times, a method often used in Chinese literature). I love this book...not only because of its erotic content.
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Post time 2010-6-26 20:15:26 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Alex2010 at 2010-6-26 20:06
Gosh, do you think I`d mention it if I hadn`t read it? And it`s not just a plain "porn novel". It has everything a good book should have...crime,murder,love,sex,action,.......and it g ...


Alex, I have a hard time believing a Jew American can read this Chinese novel. Are you Chinese then, or why your Chinese is so good?

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Post time 2010-6-26 20:29:49 |Display all floors
Originally posted by timbatu at 2010-6-26 20:15


Alex, I have a hard time believing a Jew American can read this Chinese novel. Are you Chinese then, or why your Chinese is so good?



Well, not that I didn`t tell you before....but I`m German and thanks to my education and already 6 years in China I`m able to read,speak,write Chinese....I even read classics.

Lots of other books I prefer over hongloumeng. For example "liaozhai zhiyi"....those ghost stories about "foxghosts/hulijing" rock. Shuihuzhuan, sanguo yanyi are not bad either. And when it comes to erotic literature "tales of an infatuated woman" as well as "the embroidered couch", "Peony pavillion","story of the western wing" and "Lord of perfect satisfaction" are not bad either. And having read those books always makes me chuckle when I read here on this board that China knows no porn/prostitution/perversity etc and all was brought to China by us barbarians. ^^
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Post time 2010-6-26 20:38:11 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Alex2010 at 2010-6-26 20:29
Well, not that I didn`t tell you before....but I`m German and thanks to my education and already 6 years in China I`m able to read,speak,write Chinese....I even read classics.

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You are no superman Alex. You just made a mistake.

LiaoZhai is written in a different grammar: the Chinese literature writing grammar that has been terminated by the famous "May 4 movement". Native Chinese speakers cannot read it today. You can read a translation.

From a literature perspective, a novel is about the people and the real world it describes. In this sense, the Dream of Red Chamber is much much more accomplished.

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Post time 2010-6-26 20:43:21 |Display all floors
Originally posted by timbatu at 2010-6-26 20:38


LiaoZhai is written in a different grammar: the Chinese literature writing grammar that has been terminated by the famous "May 4 movement". Native Chinese speakers cannot read it today. You can read a translation.



Err....actually the version of Liaozhai I have, I bought in China and is Chinese....you are right , it`s not modern Chinese. The rest of the erotic novells for example I have as pdf....scans of Chinese originals....simple reason is that you will have a hard time to find them in an ordinary bookstore. wonder why.....this part of Chinese culture is on the black list.....
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