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Post time 2010-6-26 20:15:54 |Display all floors

Hm - you are calling the powers to be in Beijing...

Originally posted by timbatu at 6/25/2010 05:42 PM
Your source is wrong as usual. Duh! I realize you are so clueless about China.


... lairsl?  What was quoted was Article 18, Chapter 2 of Education Law of the People's Republic of China (Adopted at the third session of the eighth National People's Congress on March 18, 1995, promulgated by Order No.45 of the President of the People's Republic of China on March 18, 1995 and effective as of September 1, 1995) - as stated by the Ministry of Education of the People's Republic of China offical website.

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Article 18 The state shall adopt a nine-year compulsory education system.

The People's government at different levels shall adopt every measure to ensure children and juveniles of school age to go to school.

Parents and guardians of children and juveniles of school age and relevant social organizations or individuals shall have the duty to ensure that children and juveniles of school age complete the compulsory education of a prescribed length.


Timmy - if you have something, in terms of an English or Chinese Language website from the P.R. Chinese goverment that refutes, please by all means provide the link.  If you cannot - then quit this silly game of yours.
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Post time 2010-6-26 20:31:11 |Display all floors
Originally posted by tradervic at 2010-6-26 20:15


... lairsl?  What was quoted was Article 18, Chapter 2 of Education Law of the People's Republic of China (Adopted at the third session of the eighth National People's Congress on March 18, 199 ...


Trader, China is lawless.

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Post time 2010-6-27 10:33:30 |Display all floors

<smirk> Lawless?

Originally posted by timbatu at 6/26/2010 07:31 AM
Trader, China is lawless.


So... I take it you actually read the Ministry's website and was only able to produce that rather limp attempt at spin as your defense?  Or... are your observations based on dealing with the P.R. Chinese government first hand?  Say in divorce court?
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Post time 2010-6-27 10:42:12 |Display all floors

Seneca...

... you do realize that your boxing with a ghost again, right?  Honestly think for a minute this "Chinese gentleman" has ever stepped foot into a classroom in P.R. China?
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Post time 2010-6-28 22:53:03 |Display all floors

Reply #46 - Short Term vs Long Term Memory

Thanks for the comments, seneca. When Chinese students learn their 5,000-year history, along with other civilzations of the world and learn scores of Tang Dynasty poerty by heart, that's not short-term memory at work. Chinese students generally know much more history and geogrophy than, say their counterparts in America. European students also score much higher in those areas than their American counterparts in general.

On the other hand, if many students cannot remember much of their several hundre years of history, that's not even short-term memory at work. If students cannot tell where is Iraq, that's not even learning.

Some students cannot start to face learning without being told how effortless, painless, light-hearted, easy-going, entertaining and pampering education is, or why you don't really need to do any serious reading or learn anything by heart. They think teachers have to entertain them, and that their teachers never do a good job on that score.

China's education has many problems and challenges. That goes without saying. But the most pressing thing to do would be for teachers to instill and inspire, that is, teaching knowledge, and encouraging critical thinking, curiosity, imagination, and creativity on the part of students.

Memory based knowledge is a precondition for learning. There will be no long term memory without short term memory. And in many ways, short term memory is much better than no memory.

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Post time 2010-6-28 23:16:04 |Display all floors

Reply #16 - For Indienfan - Chinese Students

Don't forget major American universities and their advanced programs are very much peopled by foreign students, and lots of them come from China. Chinese students perform excellently in American colleges and public schools all over. Few exceptions. They are knowledgeable, quick to learn, motivated, disciplined, and diligent.

A Chinese student joining an American public school will mostly excell in math and sciences. (And were you suggesting math and sciences require no critical and creative thinking?) In fact, their only challenge is the English language, which they catch up on pretty fast.

Don't these facts say somthing about China's education?

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Post time 2010-6-28 23:24:09 |Display all floors

For Indienfan - How Good Is Your Foreign Language

When you say Chinese students' English is poor, you probably thought about how well (or how poorly) American students speak Spanish, after many years of secondary training... And how many Americans speak Spanish at home and at workplace, and as their first language?

Learning a foreign language does not always mean excelling in verbal communications.

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