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Post time 2010-5-17 21:23:47 |Display all floors

Re: Wahaha, Kbay

It appears that our discussion has come to an end. For our different opinions can clearly be marked by different ideology and believes, and more important, we seem to base our arguments on somewhat different set of facts.

We find this dilemma of discourse featured in the 17th century English novel, “Tristram Shandy” by Lawrence Sterne. Throughout the novel, we find each of these characters, informed by a particular philosophy or a belief, entered into a monologue ‘with’ each other. For they associate and interpret ideas based on their own private mental preoccupations. A high degree of misunderstanding among the characters is therefore generated, as each individual try to pursuit their own agenda. Borrowing Sterne’s words, “it is the nature of hypothesis that, when once a man has conceived it, it assimilates everything to itself” .

This aspect of human imperfectness explains, among other things, why the pro-CCP commentators always struggle to understand "why is Hong Kongers and Taiwaners doing this". Pro-CCP people has lost touch with ordinary citizens. Perhaps it is time for these commentators to visit Hong Kong, and more importantly, speak to its people. Only then can they understand their concerns.

p.s. yer my mom's side is from guang dong. she speaks cantonese and she opens a chinese takeaway. Most people from Guangdong in the UK, who speaks Cantonese, usually refer ourselves as Hong kongers due to the similarities in our culture.

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Post time 2010-5-17 21:27:56 |Display all floors
Originally posted by tradervic at 2010-5-17 21:01
... humor me, but is there or is there not a Hong Kong C0mmunist Party?  Figured they would have been active in this whole situation - in terms of rallying the masses and prepping people for the co ...


Dumb gweilo CIA shytespreader!

Five worthless wankers stood in fake election with no opposition.
17% eligible voters turned up.
83% HongKers went for a game of majong instead.

Chinese people won, you lost!

Go and plan your next assault fatso.
We will be waiting!
     

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Post time 2010-5-17 21:32:53 |Display all floors
Originally posted by chinawatcher at 2010-5-17 21:23
It appears that our discussion has come to an end. For our different opinions can clearly be marked by different ideology and believes, and more important, we seem to base our arguments on somewhat ...
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Go away English boy!
Kbay is well beyond your league.
He won't be wasting his time on a dunce like you.

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Post time 2010-5-17 21:40:09 |Display all floors

Reply #38 chinawatcher's post

And mark my word, in 100 years time, China will go towards a democracy. And the movement will not come from its people (i.e. you), but from the party leader themselves.


You are more pessimistic than Deng Xiaoping!

Deng Xiaoping says, China is not likely to have a directly elected President for 50 years!

50.  And you say 100?


I am very optimistic!   maybe another 20 to 30 years to go!  maybe 10 to 15 years!  Since that is the time frame, if all goes well, for HK!


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Post time 2010-5-17 21:47:30 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2010-5-17 20:20

Most Mainlanders settled in HK know HK is safer than where they come from...
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Another gweilo dunce!
Why does CD attract so many low IQ fools?
The HK Government's Capital Investment Entrant Scheme was introduced, and designed to attract people from outside Hong Kong and Mainland China.

50.  An application for an entry visa/permit to enter Hong Kong for residence under the Capital Investment Entrant Scheme may be considered if:
a. the applicant is at the age of 18 or above .....

52.  The Scheme is applicable to:
a. foreign nationals (except nationals of Afghanistan, Albania, Cuba and Democratic People's Republic of Korea);
b. Macao Special Administrative Region residents;
c. Chinese nationals who have obtained permanent resident status in a foreign country;
d. stateless persons who have obtained permanent resident status in a foreign country with proven re-entry facilities; and
e. Taiwan residents.

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Post time 2010-5-17 21:50:34 |Display all floors

In another word

Since China does not have dual citizenship, Mainlanders are effectively disqualified dummy!

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Post time 2010-5-17 21:53:19 |Display all floors

Reply #51 chinawatcher's post

p.s. yer my mom's side is from guang dong. she speaks cantonese and she opens a chinese takeaway. Most people from Guangdong in the UK, who speaks Cantonese, usually refer ourselves as Hong kongers due to the similarities in our culture


Good!  It is good you tell us and be honest!

Now HK has answered you in the "referendum".  

Think about the propaganda that you have received about how pressingly HK desires "democracy"!  Yeah....as if the whole world dying for democracy!

Democracy is good and lovely.   

But democracy can wait!  This is China Democracy 101.

There are more urgent and pressing and more important issues!

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