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Post time 2010-5-7 21:35:52 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2010-5-7 18:38


The more often you proclaim to be 'understanding' me completely the less your supposed education shows. Are you compensating your lack of schooling with racist bigotry and prejudice?

Look a ...


This is what you said:
Idi Amin, you sayeth, Wettie? I see. You are a damn late-comer to the NEWS,Sweatie! Idi did expell mostly Indians, that's right - but today he would do that to Chinese (though there aren't that many there yet). But they are leeching off Africans where they can leech off Africans, for example in Zambia, inCongo, in Cameroon, in Algeria, even in tiny Lesotho. So there is no need for you to feel inferior to the white leeches
because the yellow ones are fast taking the whole continent to the cleaners!
And vice versa! You get in China what Africa has in excess and what China is indirectly helping to cultivate:crooks, drug pushers, money launderers, smugglers, human traffickers. As I said, it works in a two-way street. And no, many of these industries are new to Africa. But crooks like RobertMugabe don't care - they are happythat their daughter can study in Hong Kong, away from the 'poor' mainland and the much poorer Zimbabwe.


You are not only a liar but a hypocrite.  

You are a white south african that ran away to China and are married to a Chinese woman.  You bash China and Chinese people every chance you get, yet you fail to see the irony.  

Your life is obviously so pathetic and empty that your sole joy in life is looking up what I've posted on CD and desperately trying to counter me.  

Taking these facts into account.  I don't give a damn what you think because you are a hatefilled, bitter, hypocritical, racist, and blind person.

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Post time 2010-5-8 07:30:24 |Display all floors

I remind wetacos of her error and invite her correction.

Originally posted by wetac0s at 2010-5-5 05:55
In europe and Australia, they call indians, pakastani's, and arabs "Asians", while they refer to chinese, japanese, korean, etc...as "orientals".  I'm not going to get into "political correctness", but different places have different names for races.  In America I am "asian".  In europe and australia, I am "oriental".  ...


Wrong.
We know that the British refer to Indians and Pakistanis as Asians, but in Australia the expression "Asians" is generally used to refer to people from China, South East Asia, Korea and Japan.
We do not use the term "orientals" ordinarily.
Indians and Pakistanis are mostly referred to as Indians and Pakistanis.
I don't know of anyone who refers to Arabs as "Asians".
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Post time 2010-5-8 09:22:12 |Display all floors
Originally posted by emucentral at 2010-5-8 07:30


Wrong.
We know that the British refer to Indians and Pakistanis as Asians, but in Australia the expression "Asians" is generally used to refer to people from China, South East ...


Same in the US.  'Asian' does not extend to arabs, indians, pakistanis.  I always thought it was wrong to use the term 'oriental' when talking of people.  Thought the term was used to describe things, such as 'oriental rug' or refering to a place - the orient.  Is this not right?

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Post time 2010-5-8 17:04:41 |Display all floors
Originally posted by JFenix at 2010-5-8 11:22
Same in the US.  'Asian' does not extend to arabs, indians, pakistanis.  I always thought it was wrong to use the term 'oriental' when talking of people.  Thought the term was used to describe things, such as 'oriental rug' or refering to a place - the orient.  Is this not right?   ...


I think that "oriental" did have some negative connotations due to misuse of what should be an otherwise innocent expression. It is derived from the Latin word for "east".

I think Wikipedia's entry on Orient gets it pretty much right as far as usage is concerned.

Wikipedia
American English
While a small number of reference works used in the United States describe Oriental as pejorative, antiquated but not necessarily offensive, the American Heritage Book of English Usage notes that

It is worth remembering, though, that Oriental is not an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. It is most objectionable in contemporary contexts and when used as a noun, as in the appointment of an Oriental to head the commission. But in certain historical contexts, or when its exotic connotations are integral to the topic, Oriental remains a useful term.

Random House's Guide to Sensitive Language states "Other words (e.g., Oriental, colored) are outdated or inaccurate." This Guide to Sensitive Language suggests the use of "Asian or more specific designation such as Pacific Islander, Chinese American, (or) Korean."  Merriam-Webster describes the term as "sometimes offensive,"Encarta states when the term is used as a noun it is considered "a highly offensive term for somebody from East Asia."

British English
In British English, the term Asian generally refers to people originating from the Indian Subcontinent and its surrounding countries. Oriental is used to describe people of Eastern and Southeast Asian descent, most particularly Chinese and Japanese. This usage reflects historic immigration into the UK, since more than 50% of the non-European population is British Asian, whereas East and Southeast Asians comprise only 5-6% of the non-European population. Of those, the majority are of Chinese descent.

Oriental is not usually considered an offensive term in Britain.

Australian English
In Australian English, the term "Asian" is generally used in reference to people of Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean and Japanese ethnicity. Australians generally refer to people of Korean, Vietnamese, Japanese or Chinese descent as Asian, and persons of Indian or Sri Lankan descent by their respective demonym. However, use of the term often varies according to personal preference.

The word Oriental, in place of Asian, is seldom used in colloquial conversation in Australia, although it is considered anachronistic rather than offensive.

Canadian English
In Canadian English, like Australian English, the term "Asian" is used most often to refer to people of eastern Asian descent and other similar southeastern groups. It can be expanded, however, such as in colonial times, to include the more southern Asian countries such as India and Sri Lanka , which is quite common, especially in use by South Asians themselves. In modern Canadian usage, according to the Canadian Oxford Dictionary, the term "Oriental" is considered offensive when applied to a person of East Asian ancestry.



The ignorant racist fool, Wetacos, maybe should have referenced wikipedia before making her remarks.

Oh, and I agree with Seneca, Wetacos lacks self identity and blames everyone else for it.

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Post time 2010-5-8 19:42:55 |Display all floors
Thanks for the clarification emu!

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Post time 2010-5-9 08:27:31 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Maoist87 at 2010-5-7 10:10
This conversation is ridiculous!!!!

This topic has turned from one on different types of Chinese (Han and minority) into a slug out between the East vs. West.

What is the goal???


I'm new here too, but from what I've seen so far, this is the way all the threads unfold around here. Somebody asks a question, posts a story, or gives an opinion, and then is accused of:

a) being a pro-China/anti-West/fake Chinese/ignorant troll

OR

b) being an anti-China/pro-West/Anglo/racist/X-tian/NWO shill

Unlike Wahahah, I see it coming from both sides. And this prevents everyone from getting anywhere closer to mutual understanding.

So, if you're looking for solutions to the aforementioned problems, I'd suggest looking elsewhere.

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