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Originally posted by polaris1120 at 2010-4-7 14:10
i totally support Li Yinhe's view, because wife swapping doesn't harm anyone else and the society. as long as bot parts agree, they can do whatever they want. and the crime they're accused of is ri ...
Polaris, you think so? So simple?
And by the way, why is it called "WIFE swapping" and not husband swapping?
To me, that doesn't say much about human rights. Instead, it says alot more about the people and the society.
Before you advocate that is "human rights", I think you should first elevate the rights and status of your women first. They are still treated like chattels of the men .... and that's why you haven't yet got over the terminology of WIFE-swapping.
As for your advocate on Human Rights, it serves NO PURPOSE really unless it is put for good use, for better protection of the weak (and that's what Human Rights is about) and equality of the people, rather than as veil to hide some IMMORAL BEHAVIOUR, ABUSE AND EXCUSE.
If human rights cannot be put for better use to benefit society, it is as good as LOAN SHARKS beating up their debtors and harrassing their families for not paying up their debts. Do you want to accord the same human rights to the loans sharks, to professional assassins, street hooligans and wife bashers as well?
I have read similar stories about cybersex too. Right now, our laws are still very immature when it comes to governing SEX on cyberspace. How many youths were raped and abused through cyber-contacts is still unknown. Where are their human rights? Who and what protects them? That's what human rights should be for ~~ to protect the weak and not to encourge lewd behaviour !!
This so-called activity of "WIFE-swapping" is really no difference to putting the wives on sale for sex by other men. You think it doesn't hurt anyone? To the man/men obsessed with "WIFE-swapping" may claim it is a personal matter and he is exercising his rightful "human rights". What about the "WIVES" being swapped, where are their human rights? Where do you draw the lines between true consent from the women and consent given under duress?
Now, let me share a true story I read in a female magazine. The husband and wife shared the same love for internet. One day, the husband suggested engaging in sex orgy through the internet. By that, the couple would get contacts with cyberspace netizens who are total stranger but willing to join them in a sex orgy. The wife was reluctant at first but after much coaxing and persuasion from the husband with promises, as usual, of his love, loyalty, forever faithfulness and protection (= emotional blackmail), she agreed. They engaged in a few sessions of orgies and in each session they will have a tree-some or four-some. There are certain unwritten rules how far the guys can grope the woman/women .... until they reached the climax and sex ensued, etc. At times, some guys did not play by the rules and almost got into fight with the husband.
According to the wife who shared the story with the journalist, she felt "dirty and disgusted" by the experiences, which is understandable. Imagine, yourself as a woman. How do you like being groped by many hands and as they go further and deeper .... The wife later wanted it out but the husband, ADDICTED TO THE SEX ORGY, refused.
Without a choice, she divorced her husband. In the course, the woman went into depression and many things happened. After the divorce, the husband took custody of the children and painted a very UGLY picture of his wife to her children and their families and friends ~~ as a selfish woman and uncaring mother who chooses career over her family and all the craps the husband come up with.
Nobody understood the woman who kept mum through the whole ordeal, and single-handedly bore all the blame for the family breakdown. Indeed, what is the woman to say to her family and friends in a society which still looks down on women? She was forced into sex orgies by her husband?
Indeed, she was. But who is to believe her? Indeed, it is PRIVATE AFFAIR and only the man and woman involved knew the true reasons and causes for their breakup.
Who suffers in the end? Talking about Human Rights, where does that stand for women who are "disobedient" and "unobliging" to the men in your society?
Indeed, let's work together and apply Human Rights to elevating the rights and status of women in our society,
Till the day when our Society accepts that, yes ! WOMEN CAN OWN GIGOLOS and COULD BUY MEN FOR SEX GRATIFICATION. Then, we talk about Human Rights in Sex Orgies.
I am looking forward to that Day, actually !
Meanwhile, I support to Chinese authorities' way of dealing HARSHLY with the IMMORAL BEHAVIOUR of the professor and all those involved.
Finally and here's a word of caution ~~ don't simply copycat Western world of Human Rights. Money is their Human Rights -- the unwritten law. Without money, most of their women ended up in prostitution and pornography to make ends meet. What "human rights" is anyone talking about?
[ Last edited by whampoa at 2010-4-11 06:50 PM ]