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Post time 2010-1-23 04:32:37 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
If you demonstrate anywhere in the world it must be done with government permission otherwise you will be "moved on", by force if necessary. Contacts of mine observed a number of rallies where Indian police were present in large numbers and attacked groups of unarmed protesters.

Sure, ask your government or wherever what will happen if demonstrations were made which hinders public life of average citizens. Further if demonstrators indulge in damaging public property force has to be used. But not military force, the old British citizen dispersing them through tear gas. Ask your contact in India that this incidents are very common and considered no harm  

Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
The important point there is that: Regular protests represent a sick society that cannot maintain its harmony

Nope, protest is the best way of showing people's dissent. You will only have problems when you forcefully quell dissents. Leave people what they have to express and if it is a good one and authorities will take action. You have a sick opinion of democracy and you are biased in your point here.

Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
"Maoists" regularly assassinate CPI members and thugs hired by right wing forces attack CPI members and rallies. Dont tell me it hasn't happened because friends of my comrades have died thanks to those scum. Men better than you or I are the victims of the inter-cine political warfare that goes on under your nose.

Wow, so you are aligned with CPI, that's cool. Then why you have to say that Maoists thugs are a result of people's dissent hehe

Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
15 years will not fix the turgid quagmire of poverty and corruption that is India.

Wow, you know nothing about India and you now become a Indian economist. What sort of economic data would you like to give to us to show your higher intelligent in economics

Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
. 50 years minimum. India from all accounts is in greater poverty than even the slums of Venezuela. Comrades who have visited places such as DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba and China were shocked by the horrible poverty they saw in India, the waves of beggars that flailed at them like zombies, the old men sprawled on the street to die and 100 other similar scenes. Perhaps that is not the district where you live, but you cannot deny that part of India looks like this.

How much people live in Venezuel, Cuba ??  10 million ?? 20 milllion ?? 500 million ??

Do you know that India used to be the richest country in 17th century. Do you know what was India's state in 1947 ??
Do you know why India's economic policies failed ???  Yes it is because of socialism,....socialism made people poor.. government owned industries didn't work efficiently and often formed trade unions and socialist groups. The whole country was in a mess because of socialism from 1947 to 1990's. Do you know how many people were pulled out of poverty from 1996 to 2008 ?? Its a staggering 450 million people.
China's economic reforms started in 1980's India's started in 1996 but implemented in 2001 because the old stoopid socialists policies were still in the government ??  Yes India is still poor but it had come a great way since reforms. If any of your comrades with a marginal IQ and who knows economy would have answered you well

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Post time 2010-1-23 04:38:48 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
Congress is definitely right wing compared to the only decent party, CPI. Of course your government publishes propaganda! Do you know why? .

Wow, you know nothing of Indian politics. Congress is Gandhian, you now nothing of Indian political system its for all people, but tilted towards poor people more. I have no problem which party would come to an average citizen my aim is to have a patriotic leader and a caring man. Sorry don't bring your party garbages to my country. We Indians are unique

Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
There is no need to be so angry and resort to name calling. If India is so wonderful, what do you care if some silly foreigner says something bad about it? Take pride in the good things and work on the bad, dont worry about what others say..

No offense taken

Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
The fact remains. The Indian media and defense establishment carries out anti-Chinese propaganda on a regular basis. All Indian comrades I have had contact with (a lot of them actually since so many come to Australia) have expressed this sentiment. You cant accuse them of being ignorant foreigners because they are Indian nationals who work in politics AS THEIR JOB!

Indian media is not controlled or censored and what Indian media says is not official one. People tend to have different opinion. Many people I saw love China. Its same you can't have a harmonious mind in a country like India

Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 01:42
Despite all these conditions in India I dont have any bad feelings towards the place. I dont gloat because China is far more developed. All I wish for is that these two countries, China and India can work together in all areas. Let them put aside their differences and be the brothers they should be. Instead of focusing on our differences, lets promote this developing world solidarity and oppose Imperialism!

Right , although I don't find imperialism in this modern world. I would oppose it if it exists

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Post time 2010-1-23 04:47:29 |Display all floors

Last time I checked...

Originally posted by manoj10 at 1/22/2010 12:28 PM
Well, it depends on relationship between India, China with other world powers.

China - Has good relations with Russia,  EU and US trade, normal relations

India - Has excellent relations with Russia, US good relations and EU more or less good or normal relations. It is highly unlikely India is being isolated or something.  Further both Russia and US are happy about India achieving high tech know hows.   

There are only three or four places in the world that space launches are regular - and none of them are in P.R. Chinese or Indian control.  As much as P.R. China crowed about their "success", the folks in the Kremlin weren't exactly dancing in the streets - same goes for Washington D.C. and the Indian announcement.

True, the folks in Paris are a wild card - but if either India or P.R. China manage to screw up an "exercise", there will not be enough fracs or gold to get them to place anything from those two countries on their rockets.
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Post time 2010-1-23 23:08:37 |Display all floors
Originally posted by antimatter at 2010-1-21 16:40
India targets China's satellites
By Peter J Brown

The goals for India's anti-ballistic missile (ABM) and ballistic missile defense (BMD) programs may be shifting to accommodate an anti-satell ...

My 2 Cents:

India is "the more vicious" of the pit bull terriers that America is rearing [size=-4](the other is unquestionably Nam followed likely still is Taiwan amongst the roster) with an aim to contain, deal with, and potentially [ NEUTRALIZE ] the China threat far far from home turf.  Sadly, Beijing is helping America realize their China policies objectives by bailing them out of their economic mess which is a derivative of their overspending in military adventures and in their China containment objectives.

The Hindu's are definitely loving this attention they are getting from Washington for merely turning themselves into America's bite dog and -- they're loving the competition they believe they are giving the Chinese "through their secretive tech transfer pack inked with GW Bush" as barter for taking part in "the Hawks of America's China containment policies".

Sadly, China is not even aware it have this problem in its hands and are idiotically employing their peaceful rise logic with the Indians trying to win them over with love from Beijing by suggesting the two are in a cooperative partnership instead of as roosters in a cockfight.

Sad... How sad it is for us Chinese...
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Post time 2010-1-24 14:28:44 |Display all floors
Originally posted by edisonone at 2010-1-23 20:38

My 2 Cents:

India is "the more vicious" of the pit bull terriers that America is rearing [size=-4](the other is unquestionably Nam followed likely still is Taiwan amongst t ...

Wow, if China with a 1 billion population and a fastest growing economy can produce cheap electricity from Nuclear power plants why shouldn't India produce the same. The deal is for only getting nuclear fuel not the nuclear weapons. India already has a thermonuclear hydrogen toys in its arsenal long before it signed the deal. THe US nuclear deal had helped to construct more than 20 nuclear plants with in 2020. And a cheap way of producing energy for the world's second fastest growing economy.

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Post time 2010-1-24 16:32:16 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Baiquen at 2010-1-23 06:12
The important point there is that: Regular protests represent a sick society that cannot maintain its harmony. They dont represent democracy, they represent that the society is FAILING in some way and the only way the deprived people can make themselves heard is to take to the streets and challenge the powers that be.  ...

Protests are a sign that something is wrong or that people perceive that something is wrong.

There are a number of different ways to respond, which include;

A-  Democratic method : Take note of the protest and get the message that some people think that something is wrong. Decide how you will respond.

B- Non democratic method : Ban any attempts at protests, arrest the protest leaders and ignore the issue thereby guaranteeing that it will fester.
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Post time 2010-1-24 16:57:14 |Display all floors
India need advance weaponry for self defense

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