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Protestant Church Apologizes for Mass acring Native Americans

Friday, November 27, 2009


NEW YORK —  Members of one of America's oldest Protestant churches officially apologized Friday — for the first time — for mass acring and displacing Native Americans 400 years ago.

"We consumed your resources, dehumanized your people and disregarded your culture, along with your dreams, hopes and great love for this land," the Rev. Robert Chase told descendants from both sides. "With pain, we the Collegiate Church, remember our part in these events."

The minister spoke on Native American Heritage Day at a reconciliation ceremony of the Lenape tribe with the Collegiate Church, started in 1628 in then-New Amsterdam as the Reformed Dutch Church.

The rite was held in front of the Museum of the American Indian in lower Manhattan, where Dutch colonizers had built their fort near an Indian trail now called Broadway, near Wall Street.

The Collegiate Church was considered the "conscience" of the new colony, whose merchants quickly developed commerce with the world in fur and grains — till then the turf of the natives.

Surrounded by Lenape Indians, the Dutch colonists "were hacking men, women and children to death," said Ronald Holloway, the chairman of the Sand Hill band of Lenapes, who lived here before Henry Hudson landed 400 years ago.

The Indians dispersed across the country, eventually ending up on government-formed reservations. On Friday, some came from as far away as Oklahoma.

During the ceremony, Chase embraced Holloway and, as symbolic gestures of healing, the two sides exchanged wampum — strings of beads used by North American Indians as money or ornament. A boy representing the Lenapes and a girl from the Collegiate Church put necklaces on each other.

While Friday's ceremony exuded warmth and openness, accompanied by an Indian drumming circle and the haunting sound of a wooden flute, the feelings leading up to the reconciliation were mixed.

"After 400 years, when someone says 'I'm sorry,' you say, 'Really?' " Holloway said before the ritual. "There was some kind of uneasiness. But then you've got to accept someone's sincere apology; they said, 'We did it. We ran you off, we killed you.' "

In New York City, the Collegiate churches are composed of four congregations including the landmark Marble Collegiate Church on Fifth Avenue led by the late Rev. Norman Vincent Peale.

The church plans to sponsor educational activities and exhibits to teach children history — including the Indian reverence for preserving the purity of the land taken over by the Dutch colonists.


The church plans to sponsor educational activities and exhibits to teach children history — including the Indian reverence for preserving the purity of the land taken over by the Dutch colonists.

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Post time 2009-11-29 09:04:24 |Display all floors
Anglos: Too late for your apologies!
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Post time 2009-11-29 09:23:15 |Display all floors

Thanksgiving or the Politics of Genocide

November 28, 2009

Thanksgiving and the Muslim Eid Al-Adha have coincided around the same dates.

In Eid Al Adha we give thanks to Allah, through a ritual of animal sacrifice, the Americans give thanks to their maker, through a ritual of human sacrifice from the first day the white man landed on native American land, until the present when that same white man, (who unfortunately now includes blacks and native Americans too) landed in Iraq, continuing that exact same 200 years old methodology of arrogance, theft, rape, torture, killing crowned with lies and deception - in short genocide.

It has not changed since...not one bit.

The first people to suffer the greed, arrogance, racism and criminality of the new world order, 200 years or so ago, were the native Americans. Today they are reduced to poverty, gang crime, alcoholism -- symptoms of total uprootedness and dispossession. So much for your culture of thanksgiving.

And to mark the occasion, I'll let you hear what America is all about, from the mouth of one of its original owners.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x ... ure=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLViW3weN9k&feature=related

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Post time 2009-11-29 10:00:33 |Display all floors

After 400 years they sorry for the real Holocaust

Christian church, Native American tribe reconcile

y VERENA DOBNIK, Associated Press Writer Verena Dobnik, Associated Press Writer – Fri Nov 27, 5:46 pm ET

NEW YORK – Members of one of America's oldest Protestant churches officially apologized Friday — for the first time — for massacring and displacing Native Americans 400 years ago.

"We consumed your resources, dehumanized your people and disregarded your culture, along with your dreams, hopes and great love for this land," the Rev. Robert Chase told descendants from both sides. "With pain, we the Collegiate Church, remember our part in these events."

The minister spoke on Native American Heritage Day at a reconciliation ceremony of the Lenape tribe with the Collegiate Church, started in 1628 in then-New Amsterdam as the Reformed Dutch Church.

The rite was held in front of the Museum of the American Indian in lower Manhattan, where Dutch colonizers had built their fort near an Indian trail now called Broadway, just steps away from Wall Street.
The Collegiate Church was considered the "conscience" of the new colony, whose merchants quickly developed commerce with the world in fur and grains — till then the turf of the natives.

Surrounded by Lenape Indians, the Dutch colonists "were hacking men, women and children to death," said Ronald Holloway, the chairman of the Sand Hill band of Lenapes, who lived here before Henry Hudson landed 400 years ago.
The Indians dispersed across the country, eventually ending up on government-formed reservations. On Friday, some came from as far away as Oklahoma.

During the ceremony, Chase embraced Holloway and, as symbolic gestures of healing, the two sides exchanged wampum — strings of beads used by North American Indians as money or ornament. A boy representing the Lenapes and a girl from the Collegiate Church put necklaces on each other.

While Friday's ceremony exuded warmth and openness, accompanied by an Indian drumming circle and the haunting sound of a wooden flute, the feelings leading up to the reconciliation were mixed.

"After 400 years, when someone says 'I'm sorry,' you say, 'Really?' " Holloway said before the ritual. "There was some kind of uneasiness. But then you've got to accept someone's sincere apology; they said, 'We did it.' We ran you off, we killed you.' "

In New York City, the Collegiate churches are composed of four congregations including the landmark Marble Collegiate Church on Fifth Avenue led by the late Rev. Norman Vincent Peale.

The church plans to sponsor educational activities and exhibits to teach children history — including the Indian reverence for preserving the purity of the land taken over by the Dutch colonists.

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Post time 2009-11-29 10:16:09 |Display all floors
Cossack

My husband has a saying which irritates the hell out of me:

"it's never enough and they resent your giving it"

he says it in regards to giving people money, but I see it applies to giving your point validation as well.



Yes, the indigenous peoples in america do have those troubles about which you speak, (not to mention a

serious problem with rape against women) - the native americans were a strongly gender equal society.

God knows how the men can handle their lives now.


Here's a little article from 2006.


Seminole Tribe Buys Hard Rock
Matthew Kirdahy, 12.07.06, 6:16 PM

       
The Seminole Tribe of Florida announced on Thursday the purchase of Hard Rock International, signaling the growing economic power and prominence of American Indian tribes.

The $965 million deal represents a milestone for the Seminoles, tribal pioneers in the casino and gaming business, a lucrative venture that is exempt from state and federal taxes. Hard Rock International owns the popular theme-restaurant chain Hard Rock Cafe.

The Seminole Tribe of Florida will buy the Hard Rock business from the British hotel and casino company Rank Group (other-otc: RANKF.PK - news - people ). The deal includes the company’s 124 Hard Rock Cafes, four hotels, two casinos and concert venues, as well as stakes in three unbranded hotels.

As part of the deal, the Seminoles also obtain some 70,000 pieces of rock memorabilia.

Last year, Hard Rock posted revenue of $493 million and profit before interest and taxes of $68.6 million.

Shares of the U.K.-traded Rank fell 4.1%, or $11, late Thursday.

“This is a proud moment for the Seminole Tribe of Florida and for all Indian tribes,” said Mitchell Cypress, head of the Seminole’s tribal council, in a news release. “It is also an opportunity for the Seminole Tribe to diversify its business operations and help a very successful company to achieve even greater growth.”

Headquartered in Hollywood, Fla., the Seminoles already own and operate five casinos in Coconut Creek and Hollywood along the Southeast Coast of the Sunshine State. More than 90% of the tribe’s budget comes from gaming revenue.

The Seminole tribe opened its first casino in 1979, the start of what is now an estimated $22.6 billion industry, according to the National Indian Gaming Commission. Their business is among a group of about 390 American Indian-owned-and-operated casinos in 28 states throughout the U.S. About 22% of these operations generate less than $3 million in annual revenues, while about 5% generate more than $250 million in annual revenues.

The largest casino in the U.S. is Foxwoods Casino, owned by the Mashantucket Pequot Tribe in Ledyard, Conn.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.

Last year, Hard Rock posted revenue of $493 million and profit before interest and taxes of $68.6 million.

“This is a proud moment for the Seminole Tribe of Florida and for all Indian tribes,” said Mitchell Cypress, head of the Seminole’s tribal council, in a news release.

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I wish they'd stop doing this. A lot of people in the Native American community get off on grievance rather than work for real important reforms, particularly within the BIA and how tribal land is managed.
"Justice prevails... evil justice."

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