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Originally posted by harmless at 2009-11-27 01:07
I am not against your topic in principal. In Germany we have also the freedom to talk about these things without being blamed for being unpatriotic.
Now it seems that you are joking. If I say a single word in America that runs counter to American policy, I am likely to be called unpatriotic and invited to leave. "love it or leave it!" they say very quickly if you question the war, or our torture policies, etc. On a talk show a famous musical group "The Dixie Chicks" were asked about their feelings related to the invasion of Iraq. They spoke reasonably about the fact that there did not seem to be a valid reason to attack Iraq. They did not insult America or the president in anyway, they simply answered the question in the most civil way. The next thing that happened is radio stations across the country refused to play any songs by The Dixie Chicks. This is grass-roots fascism.
We talk about freedom of speech, but we all know that it is either 1. Meaningless to complain, we can not change anything. Or 2. We are free to speak until we get disappeared by the CIA.
Again you guys are talking about how helpless you are in the face of Chinese prostitutes and their agents. How sad. I've been here for 3 years and I'm still a man. I mastered the phrase "don't touch me!" long ago, and when I take my hands out of my pockets the birds quickly fly away. Obviously you have an inviting smile if you are getting such persistent attention. Don't smile at sex workers or their agents, find some strength and speak out like a man "Don't want!", and they won't trouble you at all. It's very simple. Stop saying you are helpless, you embarrass yourself.
Now you mention that I am pro-China and anti-America? Well, look at were I am. I didn't come to China to bash it. I am a guest, and I'm treated well -- why should I attack my host? That would be especially bad manners. On the other hand, being American, I have a front-row seat to the short-comings of my own country. Of course I should speak about those. Everyone knows America's good points already. I hear about those all the time. America has good schools and food quality is good. Yeah America! There are some other things that are at a reasonable standard for the leader of the developed world, that is to be expected. America should not get credit for a strong bridge remaining safe a long time, it's to be expected. But if a bridge is neglected and no care is taken, then when it falls and kills many people, America should be blamed. If America took good care of the Hurricane Katrina victims, it is expected. But if the government was responsible for the disaster, left the people to fend for themselves, and have not repaired the city, then blame is due.
If I don't kill or torture today, do not praise me. Decent behavior is expected. Slavery on the other hand, especially in the land of the free, is noteworthy. Someone might want to take note of it, especially the citizen of that country.
You mentioned that the loyal Chinese here must be surprised that I will point out the flaws in my own country. No, I don't think so. Why don't they often speak a criticism of their own country? They are too busy defending their country because of rabid China haters flooding EVERY folder with China-hate, even unrelated threads in unrelated folders. Note the category we are in. This is:
» United States » Sex trafficking: An American problem too
Then your comments here should be related to sex trafficking in America, thats the reasonable and polite way. Are you reasonable and polite? You know, I did not speak a single word in this folder before Harmless started bashing China immediately though this thread never mentioned China. He could have said "wow, didn't know the US had this problem" or "I think CNN is wrong, the US could never have such a problem" or "yeah, the US is a black pit of immorality", etc. etc. The point is, staying on topic, speaking about the subject, that is reasonable discussion.
[ Last edited by Morgezuma at 2009-11-27 10:18 AM ]