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Originally posted by exportedkiwi at 2009-11-27 16:55
always remain loyal to the nation that nurtured you.
And if I was nurtured by the devil? You mean I should remain forever loyal?
What is 'nation'? You can not tell me it is just the government, or just the people, or just the invisible lines drawn out on the ground to make the land. The nation is a complete thing consisting of it's people, it's leadership, it's culture, religions, reputation, lands, etc. The flag represents all of this. That is why it's illegal to fly a foreign flag higher than our own, or to fly a Nazi flag anywhere.
The America flag has come to represent a long list of horrors. A long list of vices. A long list of shames. Does it represent any good things, sure, you can make a solid argument for that. But it's just an argument. What have we done with our good fortune. Did we help some people? Yes, a few. We helped the good, we helped the bad. We never did this without our own interests in mind. But I can respect that, because the American flag should be leading the charge to advance an American cause. Just please, tell it like it is. Our children are taught that we went into Vietnam as heroes when the truth is we supported a corrupt minority against the will of the people. Our people, and their people. All the people. That is not in accordance with our stated values. What will our children learn about our heroic purpose in Iraq? Lies. Perverting the truth that these children will live their life by is a base and thoroughly corrupting system that perpetuates evil.
The rest of the world will not be fooled. This leaves America feeling arrogant and looking stupid. But hey, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.
According to your thinking, I should wave my country's flag no matter what. Do you know that the American flag inspires more fear and disgust than a Nazi flag?
You are a disgrace to all Americans I know and certainly are not representative of the vast majority of Americans who, for better or worse, love their country.
You honor me. I thank you. You are kind to point out that though I come from the most hated nation on earth, I am not like the people who come from that place.