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Post time 2009-11-28 07:18:20 |Display all floors
Originally posted by learner1 at 2009-11-26 09:30
and what is the true america?


Rape, death, destruction & terrorism are all American values.

Just look at the way US soldiers rape, pillage and steal. Did you seen a picture of US soldiers stripping palace doorway of gold foil? Have you seen them raping boys, children and even their own fellow soldiers?

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Post time 2009-11-28 07:38:03 |Display all floors

Reply #14 verdane's post

Typical swampy response. I have never "bashed" China but I do support China, pay taxes in China and spend in China which, in effect, negates all that swampy says because swampy, is as far removed from reality as she can possibly be.
swampy, ming bai S/O/W....and if you don't get what that means, YOU can ask me! You have been told!

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Post time 2009-11-28 07:49:35 |Display all floors
Rape, death, destruction & terrorism are all American values.  Just look at the way US soldiers rape, pillage and steal. Did you seen a picture of US soldiers stripping palace doorway of gold foil? Have you seen them raping boys, children and even their own fellow soldiers?


Is it not a shame the horror people can inflict on one another?

Let me share a different story.

SSG MATHEW ZEDWICK Staff Sergeant Matthew Zedwick earned the Silver Star for acts of conspicuous gallantry and courage under fire

Shortly after midday, with temperatures climbing to 120o, the four HMMWV convoy was moving north along the MSR - approaching what appeared to be a small asphalt plant on the side of the highway. Zedwick's platoon leader thought the plant and the Iraqis there bore closer examination. Zedwick recounts      We went there and checked it out... we talked to the guys and searched them, but we didn't find anything.  Departing the plant to resume their security operations along the MSR, Soldiers of 2d Platoon approached a white civilian vehicle parked on the shoulder of the road with its hood open. As Zedwick's HMMWV neared the derelict vehicle, his platoon leader, sensing danger, called on the radio, directing his men to steer wide. The call came too late. Zedwick recalls that as he began to pass the vehicle, the enemy sprung their ambush.      First, the white vehicle blew up. Apparently, the guys at the factory had remote devices to detonate a bomb inside it from one of the towers at the asphalt factory.  The initial explosion catapulted Zedwick's HMMWV into the air. When it landed, smoke began to fill the vehicle. Zedwick recalls that      At first, I really didn't know what had happened. The only thing I knew was that we were in an ambush, and our training tells us to get out of the kill zone of the ambush. I looked over and saw my Squad Leader. He was unconscious. I tried to get him to respond, got a couple of words out of him, and saw he was coming to. The next thing I had to do was get him and me out of that vehicle, because it was on fire.  With the HMMWV now in flames, Zedwick kicked the heavy armored door to his left open - immediately exposing him to enemy rifle and machinegun fire. Once out of the HMMWV, Zedwick noticed diesel fuel pouring out of the vehicle, making the situation all the more volatile.      At that moment, I was yelling out the name of the gunner in the back ... a guy I had known for five years. I ran to the other side of the vehicle, I instantly realized he had died on impact of the explosion.  Above the din of the exploding enemy mortar rounds, Zedwick could hear Soldiers of 2d Platoon engaging the enemy with a heavy volume of fire. Still in the open, and with enemy mortar rounds raining down around him, Zedwick focused his attention on rescuing his injured squad leader from the burning HMMWV.  At great risk to his own safety, Zedwick braved the fire and the risk that ammo in the burning HMMWV would detonate to pull his squad leader from the vehicle - just seconds before it exploded. However, this now left Zedwick and his Squad Leader exposed to enemy fire in the middle of the road. Thinking quickly, Zedwick grabbed an armored door blown from the HMMWV to create a vital amount of cover for him and his squad leader. Then he dragged his squad leader to a position of relative safety next to his platoon leader's vehicle. With his squad leader safe, Zedwick then returned once more to his shattered HMMWV to retrieve the body of his fallen friend. He recalls      When I got back to the burning HMMWV, I wasn't able to get in there. It was totally on fire. There was a supply of M203 high explosive grenade rounds in there, and they started cooking off.  Despite the intense heat and danger from both enemy fire and the rounds that were exploding inside the burning HMMWV, Zedwick was able to retrieve extra weapons and a radio from the vehicle.  Meanwhile, employing fire and maneuver, the Soldiers of 2d Platoon succeeded in flanking the enemy position and occupied terrain with adequate cover to establish a landing zone for inbound medivac helicopters. As the platoon leader organized his Soldiers to counter further enemy attacks, Zedwick took his place on the line. He recalls It was at this point that, with the situation in hand, and the fire fight over, Zedwick took notice of his injuries      I had a big piece of shrapnel in my wrist. I didn't notice anything. The adrenaline rush - there was just so much running through my body that I didn't feel the pain.   "NONE OF US WERE TRYING TO BE HEROES WE WERE JUST THERE DOING OUR JOB"


At great risk to his own safety, Zedwick braved the fire and the risk that ammo in the burning HMMWV would detonate to pull his squad leader from the vehicle - just seconds before it exploded. However, this now left Zedwick and his Squad Leader exposed to enemy fire in the middle of the road. Thinking quickly, Zedwick grabbed an armored door blown from the HMMWV to create a vital amount of cover for him and his squad leader. Then he dragged his squad leader to a position of relative safety next to his platoon leader's vehicle. With his squad leader safe, Zedwick then returned once more to his shattered HMMWV to retrieve the body of his fallen friend.

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Post time 2009-11-28 07:53:46 |Display all floors

Let me tell you a little story:

Originally posted by wiseoldlady at 2009-11-28 07:49


Is it not a shame the horror people can inflict on one another?

Let me share a different story.

SSG MATHEW ZEDWICK Staff Sergeant Matthew Zedwick earned the Silver Star for acts of con ...



Racism, violence and suicides in military led to massacre

The Fort Hood Commander Lt. Gen. Robert Cole has repeated the rumor that Major Nidal Malik Hasan yelled "Allahu Akbar" just before he started shooting.. Los Angeles, Alta California - November 6, 2009 - (ACN) As an Engineering Specialist with the 2nd Armored Division at Fort Hood, Texas during the Vietnam War, I know how racist and ethnocentric the US Army can be. When I read a report by Major Nidal Malik Hasan's family that the army officer wanted out after being constantly harassed by others in the military and was called a "camel jockey," I began to understand why Major Hasan took two guns and shot up the place killing 13 and wounding 30 soldiers and civilians. There are certain things that the Pentagon shuts up about that God forsaken place in Central Texas. Fort Hood is located approximately 60 miles north from Austin and is the largest U.S. military installation in the world. The base is a 340 square mile facility nestled between Killeen and Copperas Cove. The horrors that occur there almost daily, especially during times of war, is something you would not want to tell your family after coming home. Killeen is the place where the second worst mass murder in the history of the US took place in 1991.
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, presently in a military hospital for treatment of wounds received in the shootings, is a Muslim of Palestinian descent whose duties, as a Doctor of Psychiatry, are to treat soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan totally psychotic and extremely disturbed because of their war time experiences and mental traumas received in battle. During my 16 months at Fort Hood, there were weekly suicides by soldiers returning from Vietnam but worst of all was the toll paid by the families that lived at the base. Regularly one would hear of a wife being chopped up by her disturbed G.I. husband and often about their babies being dismembered in the family barracks.
The fact that today, at Fort Hood, the returning soldiers are coming back from Arab and Muslim countries most probably made the situation for Major Nidal Malik Hasan particularly more difficult. I remember that during my initial military training for the Vietnam War, the racist drill sergeants would constantly demonize the "slanted eyed gooks." Their objective was to instill hate and to dehumanize the "enemy" to the point that to kill him would become natural. Today, I am sure that the drill sergeants are demonizing the "ragheads" and the "camel jockeys."

That an officer of Palestinian descent was constantly harassed by others in the US Army and called a "camel jockey" does not really surprise me. Mexican-Americans in the US Army suffer similar abuse even though the war with Mexico ended in 1849. There is incredible racism in all branches of the US Armed Forces. The racism is reflected in the attitudes of non-officers and officers alike. At Fort Hood, I once had the Company Commander, a captain, approach me to tell me not to speak "Mexican" in his company. When I politely informed him that there was no such thing as a Mexican language and that it was called Spanish, I was ordered to extra duty for insubordination.

Islamophobia is today rampant in all sectors of society and it is bound to have extreme negative consequences for all of us. Presently the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) out of New York City is working very hard to create a hostile environment for Muslim students at the University of California at Irvine. The reason is that the students assisted in raising funds for the humanitarian effort called Viva Palestina USA no matter that four Orthodox Jewish Rabbis raised and donated $30,000 dollars for the very same effort. Also the Zionist press is already propagandizing the Fort Hood incident by labelling Major Nidal Malik Hasan a "Jihadi." They have also already planted the rumor that Major Nidal Malik Hasan yelled "Allahu Akbar" just before he started shooting.

Recently I had the opportunity, as a reporter for La Voz de Aztlan, to accompany the 200 member Viva Palestina USA delegation to Gaza. On the way to Gaza, some in the delegation went to Alexandria, Egypt to pick up some of the aid convoy vehicles. There in Alexandria, I and other US delegates attended a Muslim prayer at the large downtown Mosque. All Americans and Christians, as I am, should at least once in their lifetimes visit a Mosque and pray alongside Muslims. I believe that the greatest problem that Americans suffer from is ignorance. I will never forget the US Army 2nd Armored Divisions Captain at Fort Hood, Texas that thought I spoke Mexican instead of the Spanish language. .

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Post time 2009-11-28 07:55:18 |Display all floors
It's obvious to anyone with even half a brain that Major Nidal Malik Hasan had EVERY reason to kill as many Americans as he could


In fact, it was his moral obligation



The man had to listen to 90 IQ red-necks, day in, day out


He had to listen to them whining that they 'couldn't sleep' since returning from their fcuking 'tour of duty'


He had to listen to them whining about sleep loss, appetite loss, sexual disfunction


OR

he had to listen to them whining about how they wanted to RETURN to do more killing and torturing and raping



He had to wear a neutral expression

He had to pretend to 'sympathise' with the ----s

He had to prescribe drugs to help them with their guilt and lusts

He had to recommend soft-options for the freaks


All day

Every day


One after another, completely oblivious to how HE (Hasan) might feel about what he was hearing .. about how HE might feel upon hearing how this or that 'Mexican American' or 'Black American' or other retard who'd joined the US military in order to be granted permenent residency and perks .. had raped four year olds and poked the eyes out of elders from HIS (Hasan's) own people


Gee, if you were Hasan and you had to deal with the fall-out from the 'US War Effort' ..... how would YOU have felt ?


I've seen people in this and other forums desperate to KILL other posters over comments online !

How would these enraged people have felt if they'd had to sit NEXT to the jerks who not only disparaged their people, but also WHINED about the results of torturing, raping, killing and abusing their own people ?

The US military should be held accountable for putting Hasan in that position


It was a torturous position and I suspect cynical meanness was responsible for his being placed in that IMPOSSIBLE situation


Hasan's family should SUE the US government ! For billions !


Hasan's postion and situation was one of SLOW TORTURE !


What options did he have?

To bow to the filth dumped on his own by the truckload ?

Or to feel like a man for a few seconds by RETALIATING against a sub-human enemy ?



How absurd that the US military would require Hasan to MINISTER to those who were befouling his own people, his religion, his culture


No. If anyone's to blame here .... it's the US government .. as usual



Hasan is guilty of nothing

His alleged 'victims' were themselves his persecutors

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Post time 2009-11-28 07:57:20 |Display all floors
You see, I do excuse Hasan totally, if in fact he is guilty of the charges against him (and there's considerable dispute about that)


I become furious about the atrocities committed by US forces. So do millions of others. Yet I'm not a Muslim. Nor are most who hate what the US has done and is doing

If a documentary were aired, showing US military raping, torturing, provoking, bullying people in Iraq or Afghanistan or any of the other locations where the US is proving what a bullying ---- it is


... and then within the documentary were shown 'good guys' blasting the US rapists and murderers to bits


... then I believe the viewing audience .. regardless of whom or where ... would spontaneously clap and cheer. I know I would


Anyway, it's all academic, isn't it ? We've bugger all chance of learning the truth of what occurred that day. The ### media was telling half a dozen different versions in as many minutes

What has been decided by the thuggish US'administration' is that Hasan went nuts and shot the place up

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Post time 2009-11-28 08:35:55 |Display all floors
'Mexican American' or 'Black American' or other retard who'd joined the US military in order to be granted permenent residency and perks ..



Hasan joined the military to pay for his psychiatric degree.


The military should have picked up on this psychopath early on.

The only innocents here are the victims and their families.

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