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CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy

ABC News Finds the Location of a "Black Site" for illegal tortures in Lithuania Nov.18, 2009.

The CIA built one of its secret European prisons inside an exclusive riding academy outside Vilnius, Lithuania, a current Lithuanian government official and a former U.S. intelligence official told ABC News this week.

Where affluent Lithuanians once rode show horses and sipped coffee at a café, the CIA installed a concrete structure where it could use harsh tactics to interrogate up to eight captures/kidnapped.

"The activities in that prison were illegal," said human rights researcher John Sifton. "They included various forms of torture, including sleep deprivation, forced standing, painful stress positions." - all are kind of CIA torture paradigm technique practice in conventional means. They currently run parallel some sort of such torture techniques using its satellite direct beam attack weaponry systems.

Lithuanian officials provided ABC News with the documents of what they called a CIA front company, Elite, LLC, which purchased the property and built the "black site" in 2004.

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War Crimes

Obama's failure to prosecute his predecessor and his collaborators for war crimes is proof that there is no
democracy and that both sides work for the New World Order.

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Yes, but the BIG DIFFERENCE is that the public opinion say NO to these criminal activities in USA or Europe: there are soe NGO to denounce it, and, if you can write this post , it's because there are peoples that can denounce it, write a book about it, and NOG to organize demostration that, in fact have already win against the Bush administration system.

So, A BIG DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE I see nothing similar in China, even the secret prisons where dissidents are incarcerate and violented, outside the chinese legal system ,nobody to say no, no reporter to go there, and the only ngo to denounce this crime is HRW wich is foreign.

Also, we talk about less than some hundred peoples in cia prisons, in china secret prison, certainley some thousand peoples...

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Yasawakic, please read the title of this thread. It's called "CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison". This thread is found in the "United States" folder. If you want to speak about China, please post in the "China and the World" folder. If you want to bash China, please open a China bashing thread or post in one of the many that already exist.

If you think China is somehow relevant to this discussion, tell us how.

Because America positions itself as the world's global-cop it is noteworthy when the U.S. violates international law so severely as to built secret prisons for the purpose of escaping the law it claims to promote. The U.S. tortures over-seas to escape it's own laws. No other country has every done such a thing.

America presents itself as more righteous than other countries. So when they do something like this, it should be deeply examined so that we can determine how closely U.S. deeds match U.S. words. Only by examining the action of the speaker can we know the value of his words. If the word of America is valuable, an examination of America's deeds should be very welcome.

America has toned down it's human rights accusations in recent years once the world found out that America is doing everything it has always said, "Don't do".

These are the reasons why this topic is so worthy of a thread. Please stay on topic.
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Post time 2009-11-23 23:40:55 |Display all floors
Lithuania agreed to allow the CIA prison after President George W. Bush visited the country in 2002 and pledged support for Lithuania's efforts to join NATO.

"The new members of NATO were so grateful for the U.S. role in getting them into that organization that they would do anything the U.S. asked for during that period," said former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, now an ABC News consultant. "They were eager to please and eager to be cooperative on security and on intelligence matters."

ABC News first reported that Lithuania was one of three eastern European countries, along with Poland and Romania, where the CIA secretly interrogated captures/kidnapped, but until now the precise site had not been confirmed.

Until March 2004, the site was a riding academy and café owned by a local family. The facility is in the town of Antaviliai, in the forest 20 kilometers northeast of the city center of Vilnius, near an exclusive suburb where many government officials live.
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Post time 2009-11-23 23:42:15 |Display all floors
A "Building Within A Building"


In March 2004, the family sold the property to Elite, LLC, a now-defunct company registered in Delaware and Panama and Washington, D.C. That same month, Lithuania marked its formal admission to NATO.

According to sources who saw the facility, the riding academy originally consisted of an indoor riding area with a red metallic roof, a stable and a cafe. The CIA built a thick concrete wall inside the riding area. Behind the wall, it built what one Lithuanian source called a "building within a building."

On a series of thick concrete pads, it installed what a source called "prefabricated pods" to house prisoners, each separated from the other by five or six feet. Each pod included a shower, a bed and a toilet. Separate cells were constructed for interrogations. The CIA converted much of the rest of the building into garage space.

Electrical power for both structures was provided by a 2003 Caterpillar autonomous generator. All the electrical outlets in the renovated structure were 110 volts, meaning they were designed for American appliances. European outlets and appliances typically use 220 volts.

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The prison pods inside the barn were not visible to locals. They describe seeing large amounts of earth being excavated during the summer of 2004. Locals who saw the activity at the prison and approached to ask for work were turned away by English-speaking guards. The guards were replaced by new guards every 90 days.

Former CIA officials directly involved or briefed on the highly classified secret prison program tell ABC News that as many as eight suspects were held for more than a year in the Vilnius prison. Flight logs viewed by ABC News confirm that CIA planes made repeated flights into Lithuania during that period. In November 2005, after public disclosures about the program, the prison was closed, as was another "black site" in Romania.

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