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Britain may tighten controls on visas for overseas students [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2009-11-15 15:19:22 |Display all floors
Brown addressed public concern over immigration in a speech yesterday in London, acknowledging that many people in Britain fear foreign workers are taking their jobs and putting strains on local housing.

He said the visa review would also look at rules that allow students on shorter and lower qualification courses to work part-time, to see if they were filling jobs "that would be better filled by young British workers."


Referring to the above statements, why is it not right for China to implement similar policies to save guard jobs for her millions of jobless graduates? Why China should be ostracized for adopting such same policies? Countries anywhere in the world have their solemn and parliamentary duties to look after the welfare of their citizens first and foremost over visitors or guests. Thus, it is all fair in love and war.

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Post time 2009-11-15 16:22:52 |Display all floors
Sansu: which jobs are foreigners taking from Chinese people?  There's a few in multinational companies, but more and more of those are going to Chinese graduates anyway- logical, really, because they speak the language and ask for less money.  The vast majority are in English teaching- jobs for which native speakers are specifically demanded by the government, Chinese schools, students, and (perhaps most importantly) students' parents.

As for the UK policy- isn't that good for China?  If fewer students can go abroad on flimsy pretexts and end up working there- more students can stay in and contribute to the motherland.  Call it 'enforced patriotism'.

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Post time 2009-11-15 16:26:35 |Display all floors
PS I am 100% for reducing the Chinese education system's reliance on foreign teachers- but that would require changing the education system first, not restricting visas.  You'd have to get rid of the demand for foreign teachers first.

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Post time 2009-11-15 16:49:12 |Display all floors
Reciprocal steps?  Will be fine once China has some 80 million people of foreign ancestry with full Chinese citizenship... once it allows mixed 'foreigner' and Chinese children to have dual citrizenship..  Once it allows foreign films to be freely released in China.  LOL

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Post time 2009-11-16 03:00:37 |Display all floors

Reply #11 thepeop's post

Referring to the above statements, why is it not right for China to implement similar policies to save guard jobs for her millions of jobless graduates? Why China should be ostracized for adopting such same policies? Countries anywhere in the world have their solemn and parliamentary duties to look after the welfare of their citizens first and foremost over visitors or guests. Thus, it is all fair in love and war.


I have only advocated China to adopt the similar policies of that as Britain's. At times like now, jobs are a scarce commodity. Rightly so, the man in the street in Britain would feel anxious to see foreigners taking over their potential jobs. Likewise, the millions of jobless graduates would like to see their government formulate policies to give priority and to safe guard job opportunities to the local graduates or citizens. With that said, any responsible government would take responsible and effective steps to achieve that, like Britain. I am afraid you have grossly misread and misinterpreted my statement above.

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Post time 2009-11-16 04:03:22 |Display all floors
I love how people in this forum fume when what is, in terms of bilateral relations, very nice treatment for China is rolled back to merely nice treatment. China doesn't even come close to matching the benefits granted to Chinese people overseas.

Britain could pass a law summarily deporting every tenth Chinese person and it still would be treating Chinese better than Chinese treat Britons.
"Justice prevails... evil justice."

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Post time 2009-11-16 07:07:09 |Display all floors
The vast majority are in English teaching- jobs for which native speakers are specifically demanded by the government, Chinese schools, students, and (perhaps most importantly) students' parents.


Fair is fair. Your point above stands and is very much valid. The Chinese government's policy on the recruitment of foreign English teachers is today outdated but sadly is perpetuated by the fact that parents of students prefer their children to be taught or seen to be taught by foreign teachers not so much as out of necessity but more so it's out of vanity that they could boast of being able to afford to pay a much higher tuition fees even when their children are only in kindergarten! The fact of the matter is, today, there are many local graduates whose proficiency in the English language is more than the standard required of them to teach in kindergartens, primary or even in the secondary schools. It is about time the government revises its policies with regards to employing foreign teachers to teach English in the kindergartens or primary schools. Such a move by the government would create more employment opportunities to the local graduates, especially those whose major is in the English language. It is about time parents should shake off the myth that their child can only learn English if taught by an English speaking native
teacher. It is simply not true!

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