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Britain's fading Empire; Rising China? [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2009-10-15 09:54:37 |Display all floors
Its 60 years since the beginning of the end of Britain's empire. Today, even the nifty thing that Britain created called the 'Commonwealth' to boost its international ego is also fading fast. There's a fascinating discussion of the challenges facing the Commonwealth at http://www.thecommonwealthconversation.org/

Perhaps this is the dawn of the new Chinese Empire?

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Post time 2009-10-15 11:27:20 |Display all floors
The better comparison is the rise of the world rather than just China. First there was the rise of Europe, then the growth of the United States. Now we see the newest players as China, India, Brazil, etc. A shift in power from the Western world to the non-Western is occurring, and even that is a bit generalized.

Since power can't be physically measured, these discussions become muddled. But there is no deigning that China is rising. Empire? Now that just depends on your definition.

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Post time 2009-10-15 13:13:08 |Display all floors

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Post time 2009-10-15 13:20:37 |Display all floors
Originally posted by huang262 at 2009-10-15 13:13
China has no colonies and is not an empire. China is a country.

There are precious few colonies left in the world and the definition of empire is broad and can still be used today.

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Post time 2009-10-15 13:33:41 |Display all floors
Originally posted by huang262 at 2009-10-15 13:13
China has no colonies and is not an empire. China is a country.



"Politically, an empire is a geographically extensive group of states or peoples (ethnic groups) united and ruled either by a monarch (emperor, empress) or an oligarchy."

China has many ethnic groups and is ruled by the communist party(an Oligarchy)

"An empire is a State with politico-military dominion of populations who are culturally and ethnically distinct from the imperial (ruling) ethnic group and its culture.

Unlike an homogeneous nation-state, an heterogeneous (multi-ethnic) colonial empire usually has no common tongue, thus, a lingua franca is most important to governing (administratively, culturally, militarily) to establish imperial unity."

Putonghua is a lingua franca, in this case used in China to unite peoples that would otherwise be unable to talk to each other.


China fits the conditions of being an Empire, not that that alone is a bad thing.  The EU also comes close to being an empire.

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Post time 2009-10-16 03:22:56 |Display all floors
China is just rediscovering her past glories as a great united country and not as an empire. Admiral Zheng He did not create an empire in China's name in his time. China today too has no empire building intentions. What China wants is to trade and promote friendship in all "four corners of the seas".

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Post time 2009-10-16 05:57:22 |Display all floors

New World Order

Unfortunately for the people of the world,the British Empire still exists as the New World Order.The Empire
absorbed Germany and the Russian and the Ottoman Empires and became the first global empire in
human history.It is of course an undeclared empire.It has gone to considerable lengths to promote the illusion
of decolonising and of promoting the myth of sovereignity of semicolonial and other countries.The Zionists
and the Upper class WASP's are senior partners in the NWO.The Zionist bankers control the financial
institutions worldwide and Zionist propagandists control the world's media.Murdoch's networks broadcast
freely into all parts of the world.The West has a huge military that can crush any state disobeying it's orders.
New fake moralities which justify homosexuality and gender role reversal are propagated across the globe as
they are seen as esential to greater economic activity and Zionist profits and the concentration of wealth in
Zionist and WASP hands.The NWO slaughters people in Africa and the Islamic world and the rest either
join in or stand by mute.

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