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Originally posted by expatter at 2009-7-4 00:27
The Basques (In Spain, for the challenged)
There is much stated about the rights of people who have an ethnic culture (flag, money, language) to determine their own rights in th ...
From any point of view they are well suited to have an independent state.
a) they are the earliest settlers there who survived till nowadays.
b) they have their language quite distant not only to spanish but to all other Eurosprache.
c) they know they are Basques as nationality and citizens of Spain. How much do they feel it is their state versus the state of the occupants...I presumeit depends on individual views.
The single factor which obscures the will of the inhabitants of Basque land, whether they opt for full idldnce, partial or noe is the percentage of non-Basque dwellers. These people, Spanish will never vote for any separation.
In Europe , these Basques ( or any others) who turn to trrst methods will not get any significant backup or sympathy. However, if they en-masse voted for sprtion and their local parliament officially stated such - then we have similar situation to what was done in Slovenia, Croatia, other parts of Yugoslavia, South Osetia, Chechnia, Tatarstan, Abchasia, Adzharia, Kosovo etc...
Then we would see which way it would develope and make direct comparisons. Europe, having accepted Kosovo would be at least divided facing ruough treatment coming from the Spanish side.
Similar story, only more difficult. Where Basques land lays in France and Spain, Kurds have their people in 4 countries. Even if they waved the smallest part ( in Syria) there is still problem with Turkey, Iran and Iraq. Their situation is somewhow similar to Poles in 19th century, ( also conquerred and divided by 3 local superpowers). The difference is - they do not have so long history of indpndnce.
I do not remember any such situation, save Czechoslovakia ( I will always bear my high opinion about the level of their civilization in this respect), that a people was given inpndnce on silver cushion. Wherever we look back in the history we will see the struggle. And it depended on many factors, with the main one: the will of the people, others were good situation and sometimes a piece of luck, of when would it happen. And IF would it happen to succeed.