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Dharamsala "Hell on Earth" [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2009-4-9 20:35:04 |Display all floors
The article says:

"Grunfeld estimates that half the Tbtn children in exile receive no education--in keeping with laamaaist hostility toward mass education"

Grunfeld's book actually says:

"some 10 to 15 percent of Tbtn children do not attend school" (talking about the camps)

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Post time 2009-4-9 21:22:51 |Display all floors

thepeop

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Just curious. Do the writers of the different articles have the same name?

As regards Grunfeld, he is a separate writer and should be judged on his merits rather than those of the website.

Obviously the writers are using something known as poetic license.

You will also find there is a second edition I believe.

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Post time 2009-4-9 23:43:12 |Display all floors
"Obviously the writers are using something known as poetic license."

I'll assume that's ironic.  As for whether the writers have the same name... 'The Revolutionary Worker Online' seems to be too revolutionary to actually name writers.  I think the guy who really attacked Deng was the head of the organisation, though.

If you want Grunfeld to be judged on his own merits, it would be better to post something written by him, no?

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Post time 2009-4-9 23:49:53 |Display all floors
Here's a quote from Grunfeld:

"Whatever the problems in exile, Tbtns will probably never return home voluntarily. While the Chinese press may believe that "the figure [of returning exiles] is growing steadily as Tbt opens wider to the outside world" and the TAR government offers monetary incentives such as a RMB 1500-2000 (about US$180-241) allowance per family in addition to land, pasture, and livestock, only 1800 have returned permanently although 11,600 have visited Tbt since the border was opened."

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Post time 2009-4-10 02:31:26 |Display all floors

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"Many poor Tibetan exiles have their own reasons for rejecting the ways of old feudal Tibet. Grunfeld writes: "An anthropologist who interviewed many of the poorer refugees reported that they viewed the old society with some sense of shame and discussed it with outsiders only with extreme reluctance; he reported that `a number indicated to me that they would prefer to remain in Mysore [India] rather than return to Tibet as it was under the old system."

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Post time 2009-4-10 18:47:27 |Display all floors
Yes, that quote says that some poorer Tibtns prefer life in India to their lives as they were in Tbt.  That part, interestingly, is the article citing Grunfeld citing an unnamed anthropologist- do you know who that anthropologist is?  Given that he/she has been to the area and interviewed the people there (it doesn't seem Grunfeld has, although you're welcome to correct that), he/she might be a better source.

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Post time 2009-4-10 18:50:43 |Display all floors
By the way, if your argument is that conditions in India are really bad, what about the quote above? It suggests that very few Tbtns have returned permanently despite government incentives.  By way of comparison, estimated figures for people leaving Tbt for Nepal and India (risking their lives to do so, it seems) that I've found online are something like 1-3,000 per year (alternative figures welcome, again).  Why would that happen if Dharamsala is "Hell on Earth"?

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