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Post time 2009-3-2 13:29:04 |Display all floors
Mollyshan,

Why don't you start a new thread about  Dorje Shugden?  I'd like to learn a bit more about them in particular why the D.  L.  fears them so much and why he threatens and prohibits people to worship Dorje Shugden.

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Post time 2009-3-2 13:33:01 |Display all floors
His Holiness has forgotten that he is supposed to be a Buddhist , let alone a leader .  What with his decades of being pampered with 5-star hotels and first class travels , enjoying the best steaks from around the world , and perhaps even indulging in a little of the " nectar of the gods " , this man is the anti-Buddha ( as anti-Christ ) if ever there is one .

His dilemma is now to appease his deserting base by ratcheting up his rhetoric about war and strife and to appease his Hollywood do-gooders who think he is still the incarnate of a saint ( he has to intone peace and tolerance ). You can see the difficulty for the poor man : to be a warrior or a peace maker ?  He is totally ill equipped to do either . I say we let him carry on with what he does best : be a " celebrity " for Hollywood .

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Post time 2009-3-2 15:30:49 |Display all floors
Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2009-3-2 13:29
Mollyshan,

Why don't you start a new thread about  Dorje Shugden?  I'd like to learn a bit more about them in particular why the D.  L.  fears them so much and why he threatens and prohib ...

satsu_jin, there is a video documentary about the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden on Youtube, which exposes Dalai is nothing but a dictator and a bloody killer!

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Post time 2009-3-2 15:34:32 |Display all floors
Tibetans’ demand for religious freedom - Tibetan’s Dorje Shugden Conflict (www.TibetPedia.org)

"Religious prosecution", "Human violation", "Demand religious freedom". If you heard these words from a Tibetan in exile, you would think they're talking about P.R.C. Can you imagine they may refer to the Tibetan government in exile?

In December of 1996, a protest was held in India against a newly issued ban of worshipping "Dorje Shugden" (a.k.a Dholgyal), a respected religious deity Tibetans have been worshiped for 300 years. The ban was issued by His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama. He regarded the worshipping of such deity harmed the Tibetan cause and his personal health. Anonymous threats were spreaded against anyone who obeys his directness [1]. The Assembly of Tibetan people's Deputies also officially instructed the Shugden worshipper to make "independent" decision after they listened to the teaching of His Holiness and cleared the doubts in their minds (Jun. 1996).

The statues of Dorje Shugden were removed from temples and destroyed. A forced signature event was also held to make people promise to stop the Shugden worship [2]. Those who refused to sign lived their life in great fears. Their names and address and their Children's names and schools were posted in public. People threw stones at their houses. Sometimes their houses got burned. They were treated as outcasts in their communities. Swiss public TV filmed a documentary about the Shugden conflict in 1998 [1]. An interviewed old Lama who expressed his discontent was later attacked by a knife and barely survived. The response from Dalai Lama and the Tibetan government in exile was negative. "Some people have been spreading lies that individuals were harassed and their objects of worship seized for propitiating Shugden, and that government officials were expelled from job, etc. Not a single of these allegations were found to be true"[3]. When Dalai Lama was asked about the violence during an interview by Swiss public TV [1], he insisted that those did not happen, even so after the interviewer told him that he had seen it with his own eyes.

In the Tibetan in exile community in India, it's against the law to object Dalai Lama's teaching and decision [1]. And it's been repeated told that practicing Shugden worship would endanger His Holiness's life. Some Shugden activists were declared murderers and had to go exile again. The exiled Shugden activists often found supports in the west. They have also established their own organization to demand their right of religious freedom. The Tibetan government in exile declared that those organizations are funded and supported by the Chinese authority.

The Tibetan government in exile insisted that they didn't violated religious freedom, since religious freedom does not include the freedom of choosing which deity to worship.

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Post time 2009-3-2 17:58:55 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2009-3-2 18:46
It's just oh so hilarious to read suggestions and even commands from atheists advising the D.L. to 'focus on religion'...

It's like a Catholic minister advising the government on how many condom ...



....or a foreigner giving advice to the government how to rule their provinces and telling them which province has to secede.

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Post time 2009-3-2 20:10:37 |Display all floors
The idea that a religious leader shouldn't say anything about politics is usually held by those who disagree with those politics and not a single additional person.
"Justice prevails... evil justice."

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Post time 2009-3-2 21:22:49 |Display all floors
Originally posted by mollyshan at 2009-3-2 16:30

satsu_jin, there is a video documentary about the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden on Youtube, which exposes Dalai is nothing but a dictator and a bloody killer!


Thanks for this information. I did visit youtube and understand a bit more about Dorje Shugden.

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