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Post time 2009-2-10 21:08:50 |Display all floors

oops my typo again...

Originally posted by seneca at 2009-2-9 22:47


Not incest, but enforced marriage, or as Betrayer has it: Marriage (at this age) is legal prostitution.

Islam teaches an extreme form of intolerance to human feelings and urges such as sex, ...


i wasnt exactly wanted to say INCEST but INTEREST...i wanted to say interesting things out there...but somehow the word, incest fit right into it  

but thank god you've caught it for us...thanks, buddy  

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Post time 2009-2-10 21:17:16 |Display all floors
Originally posted by iamnaive at 2009-2-10 16:33



That is exactly what everybody is telling:

Most Islamic States still live 2000 years behind. If you are justifying child marriages in the year 2009 with the bible story dating 2000 years b ...


Civil Marriage
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"Marriage", says Bishop, "as distinguished from the agreement to marry and from the act of becoming married, is the civil status of one man and one woman legally united for life, with the rights and duties which, for the establishment of families and the multiplication and education of the species, are, or from time to time may thereafter be, assigned by the law of matrimony." (I.Mar. and Div. Sec. 11.)

The municipal law deals with this status only as a civil institution. Though sometimes spoken of as a contract, marriage in the eyes of the municipal law is not a contract strictly speaking, but is a status resulting from the contract to marry. Justice Story speaks of it as "an institution of society founded upon the consent and contract of the parties". (Story, "Confl. Laws", Sec. 108.Note.) All competent persons may intermarry, and marriage being presumed to be for the interest of the State and of the highest public interest, is encouraged. It is held to be a union for life. The law does not permit it to be a subject of experimental or temporary arrangement, but a fixed and permanent status to be dissolved only by death or, where statutes permit, by divorce. In England, the solemnization of a marriage was required to be before a clergyman until the statute passed in 1836, and all other marriages excepting those of Quakers and Jews, were null. By that act civil marriages and those of dissenters from the Church of England are legalized and regulated. In order to constitute a valid marriage there must be a consent of the parties, and in some of the states of the Union no formality is necessary.

By the common law the age at which minors were capable of marrying, known as the age of consent, was fixed at fourteen years for males and twelve years for females. Marriages under the age of seven years for both were void, but between seven and the age of consent the parties could contract an imperfect marriage, which was voidable but not necessarily void. The marriage of parties who had attained the age of consent was valid even though they lacked parental consent, until in England the marriage act of 1753 declared such marriages void. This act, however, has never been the law in the United States. In England under the statute of 32 Henry VIII, c.38, all marriages were made lawful between parties not within the Levitical degrees of relationship; this was interpreted to mean all marriages excepting those between relatives in the direct line and in the collateral line to the third degree, according to the rules of the Civil Law, including both the whole and the half blood. In the United States, in the absence of statutes to the contrary, marriages are unlawful only in the direct ascending and descending line of consanguinity and between brothers and sisters. In most, if not all, of the States, however, there are statutes covering this subject, and in a number of them marriages between first cousins are forbidden. Marriages that are made without formalities, but by the mere consent of the parties, are known as common law marriages. In order to make such marriages effective, there must be a present intention to make the contract and it must be expressed accordingly,(in other words, "per verba de praesenti". Words expressing a future intention do not give the necessary consent, but when words are used with the future intention apparently, followed by consummation, or, as it is said, "per verba de futuro cum copula', a marriage is constituted, the future promise having been converted by action into an actual marriage. Marriages contracted without conforming to a statutory regulations are valid in a number of states and not in others. Formal solemnization is unnecessary. Where no penalty for disobedience of statutory formalities is provided, their omission does not invalidate the marriage.

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Post time 2009-2-10 21:28:33 |Display all floors
Originally posted by iamnaive at 2009-2-10 16:33



That is exactly what everybody is telling:

Most Islamic States still live 2000 years behind. If you are justifying child marriages in the year 2009 with the bible story dating 2000 years b ...


In France the man must be at least eighteen years of age and the woman fifteen to contract a valid marriage, unless the President of the Republic grants a special dispensation. By a law dated 25 June, 1907, parental consent is no longer required for men and women over twenty-one years of age, but both men and women under thirty must ask for it and serve upon the dissenting parent or parents an instrument requesting it. The parties may marry three days after service has been made. Under the law previous to that date, men under the age of twenty-five and women under the age of twenty-one could not marry without the consent of their parents or the survivor if one of them was dead.

In England the common law rule of fourteen for males and twelve for females governs the marriage age. Consent of parents is necessary for persons under twenty-one, except for a widow or widower. The proper person to give consent is the father or, if he be dead, the mother, if unmarried, or finally a guardian appointed by the Court. Soldiers must get the consent of their commander. Violation of these provisions does not, however, invalidate the marriage; but in case of soldiers the woman is not recognized as having a military status. In Scotland the impediments are the same as in England, but no consent of parents or guardian is required. Regular marriages are celebrated by some minister of religion in the presence of at least two witnesses, after the publication of banns or issuance of registrar's certificate. Irregular marriages are clandestine marriages, celebrated without publication of banns or notice to the registrar. Such marriages may be made by mere consent without a clergyman and are valid. In Ireland provisions are made for marriages by Episcopalians, Catholics, and Presbyterians, by ministers of other denominations, and by the civil registrars. The impediments to marriage are substantially the same as in England.

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Post time 2009-2-10 21:35:50 |Display all floors
Originally posted by NYChinatown at 2009-2-10 21:08


i wasnt exactly wanted to say INCEST but INTEREST...i wanted to say interesting things out there...but somehow the word, incest fit right into it  

but thank god you've caught it f ...


iin  HAWAII  and some other states of USA, a girl at the age can have legal marriage. whereas in ILLINOIS minimum age is 16.  England  accept  12 years as legally fir.  [/color]

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Post time 2009-2-11 10:15:03 |Display all floors

Holocaust Denial

Rattlesnake,you are a callous white supremacist holocaust denier.Your ancestors mass murdered
at least 200 million people across the globe for their land and mineral resources.And your governments
keep up the killing today.Using conventional weaponry,depleted uranium,white phosphorous,napalm,
agent orange,DIME in Iraq,Afghanistan,Palestine and elsewhere.And biological weapons like the AIDS
virus and malaria in the rest of the semicolonial world.And you bring up some variant or the other of
the Nazi master race/inferior races creed to justify the ongoing genocide.Do you see yourself as a sort
of junior Goebbels ? I certainly do.

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Post time 2009-2-11 12:36:48 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2009-2-11 10:03


What exactly contains your brief? Is it your mission to show that underage marriages are more common around the world?

Possible. I am surprised to learn girls aged under 20 can marry in a va ...


When masters put puppets and order them to practice of law  which is neither islamic ,nor english. it will result like this. she can get divorce(khalah) by islamic law but that are not in practice. and  a  Saudi Mixture also dont give her relief as you say.

better master rule directly and add a few more stars in their flag. i think majority will like it. green card is much attractive and me 2 want to get salaray in   foreignn currency. this is easy solution. one country one law. but i am afraid you will lose job.

minor marriages in west are allowed with consent of father (mother dont have right to interfere as she is considered inferer by westren law) . Islam permit the marriage of minor with consent of Wali (guardian) whether mother, father or real uncle. and she can go for divorce  (khalah) and it dont need a valid reason.

Pakistan is considered a fundamentlist country by westren media but by law there divorce  get effect within 90 days after a girl send notice to her husband . she dont need to go to court. i am afraid in west one can get divorce without going to court and paying handsome amount to lawyer?

while law of England allow a girl to 12 year fit for marriage  and some states of USA issue marriage license for 15 years old girls. majority of muslim countiries law  set 18 year age suitable for marriage.

thanks you accept you are in lack of knowledge for westrren countries marriage laws. you dont need it. just focus muslims and let convince other that they are wild , uneducated, they have nothing good to show.

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Post time 2009-2-12 16:20:49 |Display all floors
Originally posted by bhapataka at 2009-2-11 13:36


When masters put puppets and order them to practice of law  which is neither islamic ,nor english. it will result like this. she can get divorce(khalah) by islamic law but tha ...

New Hampshire USA:  18, 14 for males and 13 for females, in cases of "special cause" with parental consent and court permission.

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