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Post time 2008-12-28 22:33:47 |Display all floors

Hi tnuoccanepo

"Those answers tell a lot about CHinese thinking, don't they?  And, don't say you have never come across such answers; to me they are legion in my day-to-day dealings with Chinese. What Chinese have never perceived sensorily, they simply can't imagine.
That's a very limiting factor to their thinking! " – seneca


This statement follows the line of thinking of the first answer.  When people train to do tasks just by memory and are not encouraged ‘to think outside of the square’, then you can experience problems which are logically solvable. It has nothing to do with the power of the mind and in fact a human condition.

Example: A customer rings a company and asks for their goods earlier. The employee checks the schedule and says it cannot be done. The schedule is full, so that is a fact. Another employee says I will ring you back and does a creative double up delivery, or even finds a customer who is not in a rush and changes the schedule to get the job done.  

Seeing or envisaging another way to do something is not a Chinese thing but a human thing.  In relation to the comment on the first quotation, most institutions in China only teach memorization and not creativity.  

The Chinese who are creative will be the ones who get the jobs when they are so short.  Just like the Chinese girl who sold herself on the internet recently.  She got a job instantly, because her future employer recognized her ability to see past the hurdles.
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Post time 2008-12-28 22:42:02 |Display all floors

Hi tnuoccanepo

"Allow a Chinese to develop his or her thinking unfettered and you may be dealing with another genius before you!


I agree totally, if you add up the power of the Chinese in memorization and arithmetic’s you have a genius!

Meanwhile, a backward culture induces a backward thinking that is at odds with many non-Chinese, not to mention with thinking Chinese as well." – Seneca


However, if you do not help the learner to think proactively rather than retroactively, which is a backward way of thinking, then you will have people that live by rote.

This is at odds with many non-Chinese as it is not the way they are taught to learn.  Very true.

It is also at odds with many Chinese who are bright enough to know that they want to be the ones who succeed in what is now a very difficult financial environment.

Good Luck and Happy New Year to the proactive Chinese in their job hunting.

Xin Nian Kuai Le  :)
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Post time 2008-12-29 05:22:15 |Display all floors
Expatter,

I'm always glad to see the history of the Summer Palace episode exposed on this forum. The emperors were depraved individuals and, were we to judge China's culture by them and their high regard for them, the only conclusion to be found is that we must destroy that country utterly for the peace of every other person on earth.
"Justice prevails... evil justice."

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Post time 2008-12-29 10:10:18 |Display all floors
Originally posted by interesting at 2008-12-29 05:22
I'm always glad to see the history of the Summer Palace episode exposed on this forum. The emperors were depraved individuals and, were we to judge China's culture by them and their high regard for them, the only conclusion to be found is that we must destroy that country utterly for the peace of every other person on earth.


Amen. Christians had peace this way for 2000 years, just look at the Middle East.

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Post time 2008-12-29 11:12:18 |Display all floors

Cut and Paste Time Again

The Western campaign was no doubt the most prolific in massacres. Samarkand, for example, was a city of half a million inhabitants, with rich marketplaces, big libraries, magnificent palaces and an army of 100000 men. It was the cultural and political centre of the Eastern Muslim world. After the fall of the city, the outer walls were demolished. 50000 families were spared, as well as 30000 artists and handicraftsmen. Young men were taken for earthwork or sent to serve in the army. The rest was massacred.

The Kangli mercenaries that formed an important part of the garrison thought that, because they were Turks, they would be treated as fellow-countrymen. They went to the Mongol camp with luggage and with their families. This was a miscalculation though, then Genghis Khan held betrayal in detestation. He had them all killed, then one can never trust traitors. Here is how the execution of the 30000 Kangli Turks was carried out. The men have to show unarmed and in close order (in rows) before the Khan to have their hairs cut so that they look like the other Mongols. The Turks do as they are told. Behind each of them stand a Mongol holding a razor. At a signal, all 30000 men lose a little more than their hairs, they have their head cut off!

At Signak, the entire population (200000 people) is put to the sword. The towns and villages that offer any resistance are taken and destroyed. When the inhabitants of Zaveh shout insults from the top of their high walls, Subutaï makes them pay for this verbal abuse by taking the city after a three days' assault. The whole population is massacred and they set fire to the remaining ruins.

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Post time 2008-12-29 11:27:18 |Display all floors
So what does this tell us about the Asian mind and its deep desire for death, depravity and destruction?

Is it any wonder that berserk Chinese who have lost face stabbed tourists during the Olympics?
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Post time 2008-12-29 11:34:18 |Display all floors
Originally posted by interesting at 2008-12-29 12:27
So what does this tell us about the Asian mind and its deep desire for death, depravity and destruction?



Chinese who have lost face stabbed tourists during the Olympics?

One cannot rely on news anymore. Here it said that it was an isolated incident.

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