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Post time 2008-12-28 12:41:40 |Display all floors

Interesting

But I thought it was just the Anglos and the Whiteys who did this.

Other forum members have tried to make me believe that all Asians are peaceful.

They try to make me believe that only my culture is guilty of heinous crimes.

I am shocked by these new revelations.

They tell us of the beauty and magnificence of the East and the Asian people.

Asians murdered and brutalized their own peoples?  Wow!

For example: India was a Mongul possession and many of its people were slaughtered.

When the Mongul Empire fell apart after the fall of the Yuan Dynasty, India became a divided warring nation.

Even more people died. It was the cruel British who made reunification possible.

Of course they will only get kicked in the ass for that.

Amazing to realize what barbaric and brutal people Asians were.  
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Post time 2008-12-28 12:43:27 |Display all floors

Cut and Paste Time Again

Mukhuli received the order from Genghis Khan to break the Chinese resistance that had begun to emerge. During the fall-winter 1215, he took more than 800 cities and villages; some of them destroyed, the others spared and left under indigenous leadership. Massacres and destruction of cities are justified in that case because a partisan war was on the verge of breaking out; it would have been a long, painful, tedious war of attrition against the Chinese masses. To prevent freedom fighters and guerrilla to hide in a forest, it is necessary to burn down that forest. To prevent them to hide in the midst of a population, it must be exterminated.

This is the Mongol way of thinking: flawlessly logical, but perhaps slightly inhumane. These massacres are the more justified, then after the loss of 18 million dead (one third of the population), Northern China was still able to organize a new resistance, and even to mount a series of attacks. Its armies moved back into the provinces they had lost and started to defeat and drive back Mongol detachments and Chinese allied troops. They put garrisons back in all cities that had been conquered earlier by Mukhuli. <<If the extermination of one third of the population is insufficient in the case of China to break any resistance, maybe after one half has been killed, they will finally keep quiet. Otherwise, it will be necessary to kill 75%, 80%, even 90%>>. Those might have been the thoughts of the Mongols, facing unruly China.

When the heirs of Genghis Khan will complete the conquest of Northern China in 1234, the province of Honan will be ravaged and sucked to such an extent that even the Mongols will have to start eating human flesh to survive. Famine breaks out at Kai-Fong-Fu and Chinese start to kill each other and eat one another, but the spreading of the plague is really what breaks the city's last resistance. Although the poorest people are simply buried with their shirt on, the victims of this epidemic require no less than 900000 coffins. The last million survivors still in the city when it falls are spared because of the personal intervention of Yelu-Tchutsai.

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Post time 2008-12-28 13:36:03 |Display all floors
Expatter,

Anglos and Whiteys are guided by principles, civilizing missions and so on; while these may at times be misguided or lead to zealotry, they don't hold a candle to the wholesale slaughter of Asia's laurel wars.
"Justice prevails... evil justice."

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Post time 2008-12-28 13:48:18 |Display all floors

re #3 post

Expatter,
senec is getting a bit negative when history is pointed towards China, the world's oldest continuous civilization and the peoples suffering by invaders.
Be it the Mongolians, the Japanese invasions during the 1st and 2nd world war with the horrible Nanjing Massacre, or the opium wars provoked by Britain, gleefully helped along by France, Germany, and Russia while Germany annexed Shantung. At that time,unfortunately the country was too weak to repel European colonialism and Japanese invasion at that time.
Just to think about the Imerial Gardens outside Beijing [the most beautiful gardens the world had ever seen] with 50 scenic spots, lakes, streams and ponds took over 100 years to build makes you wonder about the French and English.

“On 18th October, Sir John Michel’s division, with the greater part of the cavalry brigade, were marched to the place, and set the whole pile of buildings on fire. It was a magnificent sight. I could not but grieve at the destruction of so much ancient grandeur, and felt that it was an uncivilised proceeding”… http://ringmar.net/europeanfury/?page_id=1162

This has changed now and China is blossoming, therefore seneca feels agitated and is complaining about pedestrian’s underpasses and subways. Of course the Rickshaws are past time.

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Post time 2008-12-28 13:53:31 |Display all floors
Originally posted by interesting at 2008-12-28 13:36
Anglos and Whiteys are guided by principles, civilizing missions and so on; while these may at times be misguided or lead to zealotry, they don't hold a candle to the wholesale slaughter of Asia's laurel wars.  


What civilizing mission guided the 100 year Slave Trade?

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Post time 2008-12-28 14:52:51 |Display all floors
Just a note: the opium wars weren't provoked by Britain and can't be. Britain, not China, declared war first.
"Justice prevails... evil justice."

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Post time 2008-12-28 14:53:42 |Display all floors
Timba,

The mission to settle and develop new lands, thus spreading civilization.
"Justice prevails... evil justice."

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