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Post time 2008-12-19 13:20:19 |Display all floors
Originally posted by augusten at 2008-12-19 12:47


From your emphasize on Yuan, Qing etc etc, you chose to ignore one important fact, that Tbetan leader accepted and pledge loyalty toward the central government since Yuan era, this continued th ...


we chinese all know that history very well like the palms of our hands!!!

Only those UGLY, IDIOTS laowais be them sponsored or not by CIA remains THICKed headed on such

Forget them buddy, save your breathe for high mountain air
What's on your mind now........ooooooooooooooo la la....Kind Regards

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Post time 2008-12-19 14:29:34 |Display all floors
Originally posted by augusten at 2008-12-19 12:47


From your emphasize on Yuan, Qing etc etc, you chose to ignore one important fact, that Tbetan leader accepted and pledge loyalty toward the central government since Yuan era, this continued th ...


Loyalty to an Imperial Empire is not the same as being part of a country.  The country known as China was established in 1912 in Nanjing.  Did members of Teabat come to help establish the new government?  When the Manchu ruling class abdicated any loyalties they had left with them.

The PRC was established in 1949 and.  Taiwan is certainly not part of the PRC.  It might be part of Greater China or whatnot but the political entity known as the PRC I don't think so.

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Post time 2008-12-19 17:04:21 |Display all floors
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Post time 2008-12-19 17:37:07 |Display all floors
Originally posted by emucentral at 2008-12-19 12:40
The European royals have been "sacrificing" their own family members for centuries and yet retain separate sovereignty....


This is largely different, stupid.

They are all from white-European tradition and the marriage were held just because to retain their fine status, not as a means to settle dispute, not even as a means to attain peace.

Just compare if your white ancestor came to Australia and then marry the local aborigines, you won't do it, simply because you think it will lower your social status.

Chinese empire at the time use marriage to win trust from neighboring countries, as far as Turkmenistan, to attain peace. You and your Europeans relatives do it just to retain their social status.

An extremely stupid comparison from emucc.

But, what's new?

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Post time 2008-12-19 17:38:41 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2008-12-19 13:15
You are sidetracking the original issue! ...


Okay then, let's back to the core issue.

Why you choose to stay in China even if you hate the place and the people?

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Post time 2008-12-19 17:41:30 |Display all floors
Originally posted by idiot8 at 2008-12-19 14:29
The country known as China was established in 1912 in Nanjing.  Did members of Teabat come to help establish the new government?...


The 13rd DL already pledged loyalty to the ROC government established in 1911, also 14th DL already pledged loyalty to the PRC in 1950, until C1A and messed up.

So what's your problem?

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Post time 2008-12-19 17:42:51 |Display all floors
Originally posted by caringhk at 2008-12-19 13:20
we chinese all know that history very well like the palms of our hands!!!

Only those UGLY, IDIOTS laowais be them sponsored or not by CIA remains THICKed headed on such

Forget them ...


I'm still trying.

I also try to look who still decent enough to enter normal debate or just simple China basher.

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