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Post time 2008-7-5 19:33:10 |Display all floors

just knewn it...

Originally posted by cestmoi at 7/4/08 09:12 PM
4th July, lots of firework in NYC.

PJ must be celebrating. PJ is lucky to be living in NYC.


cestmoi--thank you so very much for your lovely message...actually yestersay was EXTREMELY quiet than any normal day during the week in the city (chinatown was like a ghost town & not 2 many tourists walkin around the city either), but except the fireworks show at 9 o'clock lastnite at the piers (live by the water front...yet, i do have the best view for that ev'ry year on the 15th floor).  america doesnt celebrate holidays like other countries do (we tend to keep ev'rythin indoor privately) around the world.  and lastnite fireworks was spectacularly pretty, loud & brite up the sky of our Easr River than any other year  :)
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Post time 2008-7-5 21:23:38 |Display all floors

Commonwealth born after WW2

Originally posted by emucentral at 2008-7-5 16:56
on the anniversary of "Leave the Commonwealth Day"
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The USofA achieved independence a bit before that.

Apropos "commonwealth", why do some states in USofA refer to themselves as "commonwealth" eg. Commonwealth of Massachusetts; Commonwealth of Pennsylvania; Commonwealth of Virginia etc...?

PJ, help out here...
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Post time 2008-7-5 22:55:57 |Display all floors
CM,

"Commonwealth" was used by some states as an alternative title because, in English, it refers to the political unit as defender of the well-being of the people--sort of a binder, the "common" referring to the idea of all having a vested interest in the community--whereas "state" just denotes sovereignty of some form.

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Post time 2008-7-6 06:34:47 |Display all floors

what am i, chop liver...

and honestly i'm still NOT very clear what it said (thought these states used to pay taxes to england) here as follows...but i'm good in lookin things up in wikipedia  

Four of the constituent states of the United States officially designate themselves Commonwealths: Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. This designation, which has no constitutional impact, emphasizes that they have a "government based on the common consent of the people"as opposed to one legitimized through their earlier Royal Colony status that was derived from the King of Great Britain. The word commonwealth in this context refers to the common "wealth" or welfare of the public and is an older term for 'republic' (cf. the 17th century Commonwealth of England). In common parlance, most people do not make the distinction between state or commonwealth, although sticklers for accuracy (usually from those states) will correct others who refer to "the State of ____" in the formal sense.

Commonwealth of Kentucky

Flag of KentuckyIn 1785, residents of Kentucky County began petitioning the Virginia legislature for statehood. They wished the County to be recognized as a "free and independent state, to be known by the name of the Commonwealth of Kentucky." On June 4, 1792, Kentucky County, Kentucky officially became a state. The Constitution was changed as to the style for "all process and mandates" to "Commonwealth of Kentucky" in 1850; prior to that change "State of Kentucky" was used.

Commonwealth of Massachusetts

Flag of MassachusettsMassachusetts is officially named "The Commonwealth of Massachusetts" by its constitution. The name "State of Massachusetts Bay" was used in all acts and resolves up to 1780 and the first draft of the constitution. The current name can be traced to the second draft of the state constitution, which was written by John Adams and ratified in 1780.

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

Flag of PennsylvaniaThe Seal of Pennsylvania does not use the term, but legal processes are in the name of the Commonwealth and it is a traditional official designation used in referring to the state. In 1776, Pennsylvania's first state constitution referred to it as both "Commonwealth" and "State", a pattern of usage that was perpetuated in the constitutions of 1790, 1838, 1874 and 1968.

A detailed history describing the origins of Pennsylvania's government, including its designation as a commonwealth from colonial times, is available from the Secretary of the Commonwealth's office.

Commonwealth of Virginia

Flag of VirginiaThe name "Commonwealth of Virginia" dates back to its independence from Great Britain. Virginia's first constitution (adopted on June 29, 1776) directed that "Commissions and Grants shall run, In the Name of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and bear taste by the Governor with the Seal of the Commonwealth annexed." The Secretary of the Commonwealth still issues commissions in this manner. Among other references, the constitution furthermore dictated that criminal indictments were to conclude "against the peace and dignity of the Commonwealth." Additionally, the official title of the elected local prosecutor in each of Virginia's political subdivisions is the "Commonwealth's Attorney," as opposed to State's Attorney in other states or the more common District Attorney.

In Virginia, the term "state" is also officially used, but usually as an adjective rather than a noun. This is evident in the name of the agency "Virginia State Corporation Commission," and also in "Virginia State Police."

[ Last edited by pjtran at 2008-7-5 07:42 PM ]

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Post time 2008-7-6 07:44:32 |Display all floors

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Dear Chop Liver,

Wow, okay, I think I got the message "...[it] emphasizes that they have a government based on the common consent of the people".

Don't worry about 'boring', he is lonely, no-one talks with him much. He butts in and make those comments in the hope that someone would talk with him. Just ignore him.

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Cestmoi
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Post time 2008-7-6 08:12:06 |Display all floors
You're just angry that the best you can do is... well... go on wild tirades.
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Post time 2008-7-6 08:42:00 |Display all floors

What is There To Be Happy About?

Just Curious.

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