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Post time 2008-5-16 16:51:16 |Display all floors
Originally posted by rocky_horror at 2008-5-16 15:57
Throughout this thread you have shown a staggering lack of knowledge about how the electoral process works in the UK - and about what the Scottish people want.



Gordon Brown WAS NOT elected b ...


If everyone in the world have followed your argument then no one in the world are electing any candidate.  For example, in the United States you can say the Americans are not electing their president because they are only electing the delegate who will then elect the president.   Remember those delegates are no required by law to elect any candidate as president.

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Post time 2008-5-16 16:55:50 |Display all floors

dragoon ... you just don't get it ...

You don't get it, do you?

This is not my theory or argument, it is FACT.

Do you know how Gordon Brown became Prime Minister?
a) yes
b) no

It seems to be b)

Do you know how the system works in the UK?

People vote to choose their local MP. The Party with the majority of elected MPs becomes the government. The PARTY chooses their LEADER. The people DO NOT vote to choose the PRIME MINISTER.

The system in the US is different.

Look, at the last General Election in the UK, Gordon Brown was not Leader of any Party. So, when people voted, they voted to choose their local MP. The majority of MPs chosen were Labour, and therefore the Labour Party is in power. The Labour Party was led by Blair at the time.

The PEOPLE DID NOT ELECT GORDON BROWN. THE END. Stop making that statement.

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Post time 2008-5-16 16:59:48 |Display all floors

dragoon

If you can bring FACTS to this discussion then we can continue, however your first post still stands as utter baloney

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Post time 2008-5-16 17:11:47 |Display all floors
Originally posted by rocky_horror at 2008-5-16 16:55
You don't get it, do you?

This is not my theory or argument, it is FACT.

Do you know how Gordon Brown became Prime Minister?
a) yes
b) no

It seems to be b)

Do you know how the sy ...


Your argument can never stand up in court or pass any logic test.  Whether it is the queen of England, members of the Labor Party, Members of the Conservative Party, Prince Charles, Gordon Brown himself,  they are British people.  As long as they have elected Gordon Brown,  Gordon Brown was elected by the British people.   Are you implying that they are wild beasts living in Britain and are not people.

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Post time 2008-5-16 17:16:07 |Display all floors
'This Prime Minister Gordon Brown is not an Englishman.  He is Scottish.  The reason why he was elected is because Scotland is on the verge of breaking away from the United Kingdom (which is obviously not  very united) to form a separate country.   Their problems started when the British government was too weak and give the Scotland too much autonomy. '

What is this utter rubbish?! Yes Gordon Brown is Scottish and not English, so what? Britain (The United Kingdom) is made up of 4 separate nations - England and Scotland among them.

Gordon Brown was elected as an Member of Parliament (MP) for Kilcardy and became Prime Minister after Tony Blair stepped down because no one else in the Labour Party (Which is the governing party at the moment) wanted to challenge him for it - he held the 2nd most powerful position in government, Chancellor of the Exchequer, for 10 years and had a 'pact' with Blair to succeed him. So he was elected as an MP for his constituency but not elected as leader of the Labour Party (no one challenged him) and not elected as Prime Minister (Because Britain doesn't vote for a PM, the leader of the winning political party at an election becomes PM)

Scotland IS on the verge of breaking away from the UK, again so what? It's has always been a separate country with it's own culture, traditions and attitudes but one that has operated under UK laws and Parliament since 1707 when England and Scotland created the Union.

Nor was it a position of weakness that led to devolution in Scotland, it was the culmination of a years of pressing for devolution by the Scots and a newly elected Labour government that had a massive majority of MPs in Parliament. It was from a position of strength that devolution in Scotland (And Wales) was made.

Good luck to the Scots if they vote for independence

'U. S. presidential candidate John McCain is, of couse, Scottish'

No he isn't at all. He is American. A U.S. citizen. Only U.S. citizens can run for the presidency of the USA. McCain simply has a Scottish surname and ancestory and indeed, also has English ancestory.

'Queen Elizabeth had recently awarded Nelson Mandella British highest honor the St. George Cross Medal because she wants Obama to be elected to avoid McCain's support of Scotland's independence. '

Or maybe it was because Nelson Mandela deserves the highest honour we can give him.

None of this was highly important or sensitive political information and the only reason it isn't available from other media is because it's a load of made-up nonsense.

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Post time 2008-5-16 18:46:35 |Display all floors

Re: thedacs - post #27

Thank you for your explanation.

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Post time 2008-5-16 18:48:06 |Display all floors
Originally posted by dragons at 2008-5-16 17:11
Gordon Brown was elected by the British people.  


You are wrong. Now please give up your nonsense

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