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Post time 2008-4-9 17:52:39 |Display all floors
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Post time 2008-4-9 18:18:30 |Display all floors
ZG,

Sure there are people that care a lot about the issues and, frankly, China selected its venues poorly. In Europe, issues that repeatedly work against China--because, frankly, China has a long way to go on them--matter much more and activism is much more extreme. In addition, while the Seattle riots cooled aggressive activism in the US, European groups took it as a wake-up call to greater direct action (like torch-grabbing and even eco-terrorism), seeing that it effectively generated publicity within Europe. Of course, you are spot on about the French.

I see problems ahead in San Francisco and, quite frankly, question why the city was chosen. It has a large Buddhist population that has melded with the hippie population to create a weird TB-but-not-really Buddhist following, increasing the likelihood of demonstrations. SF is easily the most European of US cities and the least likely to perceive law-and-order as a goal in itself; presumably Beijing selected it because of its large Chinatown, which is a mistake and, frankly, offensive. To an extent, it symbolizes the fact that China has made these problems for itself: it has already undertaken a large scale politicization of the Olympics and selected routes for nationalist rather than internationalist reasons. To that extent, China deserves the trouble they are getting; let it be a lesson in why you must carefully control your own hype and spin.

But anyhow, coverage centers in on activists because they do things, all the normal people who turned out to see their favorite athletes are pretty much ignored by the camera because they're... well... boring. In addition, any media attention on the "pro-Beijing" groups immediately draws fire because their level of preparation implicates the Chinese embassy; this should have been handled much differently and China should have prepared to hand out Olympics googaws to more than just Chinese nationalists overseas. You cannot talk about countries and not also talk about politics--politics is what they're made of--and it doesn't help that conversation to deploy some obvious astroturf.
"Justice prevails... evil justice."

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Post time 2008-4-9 20:51:02 |Display all floors
Thing it, most of the protesters don't have a clue about T/bet. They JUST want to protest (they are the same idiots who were protesting against the World Cup in Korea because people there eat dogs...). They've been "taught" (brainwashed) that China is bad no matter what, and now they feel justified in ruining a happy event. Under some ludicrous cover of pretending to be against violence, they feel that they have the right to assault innocent people involved in the relays, both verbally and physically.

This is nothing new. These people are always trying to get publicity, and they always feel that they have the moral right to violate any sort of event. What IS a shame and a true embarrassment to the West is how these groups have been/are encouraged and supported in connection to THIS particular event. Believe me, the protesters of the Iraq War in 2003 were treated VERY different from these protesters... I can also assure you that the directives to the police in e.g. London or San Francisco would have been VERY different if this was a G8 Summit and not connected to the Chinese Olympics.

Bottom line is that the West WANTS the celebrations to go bad, and that is really nothing to be proud or happy about. China may have lost some face in the last couple of days, but not nearly as much as the West... Shame, shame, shame...

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Post time 2008-4-10 06:04:43 |Display all floors

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