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Post time 2008-2-3 13:03:56 |Display all floors
Originally posted by mengzhi at 2008-2-3 13:39
PS :  Do you know that HRW and AI do complain bitterly against the inhumane treatment of inmates at both your 5-Star torture chambers ?

Hear hear Mengzhi, and well done to HRW and AI for posting criticisms of Guantanamo Bay, other US prisons, Australian Immigration detention centres and similar facilities around the world.
Their criticism and comment ensures that the Americans, Australians and others are aware of their governments treatment of criminals, terrorists and innocent refugees and are able to make their parliamentary representatives aware of their feelings on these issues.

I look forward to CD's publishing of HRW and AI commentaries so that the people of China can be similarly informed.
"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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Post time 2008-2-3 13:32:02 |Display all floors

Sorry Mengzhi

Originally posted by mengzhi at 2008-2-3 11:39
Trader the myth merchant chants on and on about American freedom , liberty and justice . Yet when it comes to the practice of it , he wants a one-way street of traffic . He is only happy when every ...

This once I disagree with you (in case you don't know who's behind HRW). But maybe you already know. :)

Who's behind Human Right Watch? (US financed deceit tool)

Human Rights Watch (HRW) came into existence in 1978 as the U.S. Helsinki Watch Committee.  Early documents affirmed that its purpose was to "monitor domestic and international compliance with the human rights provisions of the Helsinki Final Act."[1] But though a private U.S.-based organization whose vice chairman once stated "You can't complain about other countries unless you put your own house in order,"[2] its main focus was on Moscow.  Thus its literature also affirmed that founding the Committee "was intended as a gesture of moral support for the activities of the beleaguered Helsinki monitors in the Soviet bloc," and its early work was well geared to advance the U.S. government's policy of weakening the Soviet Union and loosening its ties to Eastern Europe.

Because of its institutional commitment to human rights and its broad purview, however, HRW has done a great deal of valuable work, as for example in helping to document the character and effects of the Reagan era wars across Central America, where its Americas Watch reports on the U.S. support for the Nicaragua Contras, the Salvadoran army and death squads, and Guatemalan state terror were eye-opening and led to intense hostility on the part of the Reaganites and Wall Street Journal editors.[6]

Three years earlier, when the NATO powers had begun the bombing of Yugoslavia on March 24, 1999, HRW said nothing critical about that action; as we shall see, it focused mainly on the crimes of the target country then under attack.

The word "genocide"  has also never been applied by Roth or HRW to the enormous death toll caused by the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq, 2003-2007, although the numbers of civilians that have died as a consequence of that UN Charter violation now exceed the Kurd "genocide" attributed to Saddam by a multiple that may have reached six or more.[15]  But HRW has shown little interest in these totals, and when the British medical journal Lancet published an estimate of some 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths for the first 18 months following the March 2003 invasion, HRW senior military analyst (and former Pentagon intelligence analyst) Marc E. Garlasco quickly dismissed the findings as "inflated" and the methods used as "prone to inflation due to overcounting."

You should know they supported and financed a lot of propaganda organizations as their tools. Even if their existence serve their master, we also may use this for our cause.

Mao said, create contradiction by using contradictories.

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Post time 2008-2-3 13:33:36 |Display all floors
Originally posted by emucentral at 2008-2-3 13:03
I look forward to CD's publishing of HRW and AI commentaries so that the people of China can be similarly informed.  ...

Publishing commentaries from a US funded intelligence agency.

You live far from reality emucc.

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Post time 2008-2-3 15:11:08 |Display all floors

Chinadaily bbs a commercialised propaganda forum

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Post time 2008-2-3 16:03:45 |Display all floors

Reply #25 gadflystings's post

Are we at war with China Daily?

Who cares how they make their money!

No one in these forums is writing anything so profound and precious that there is any real value to any of us, except for the fun of bashing each other!

Need some bashings? Come on in -- that's what we do best!

I like to follow around gotohell, personally.

Hang-out long enough and you too might find your favorites to bash on -- like China Daily, they seem rather used to it.

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Post time 2008-2-3 18:01:14 |Display all floors
#23  northwest,

Thank you for the information . I am aware of the networking by the CIA in which they fire from  every direction to give the appearance of  " debate " and " democracy " . Therefore , in order to maintain the myth of an independent NGO , HRW needs to be seen to be fair . Nevertheless , there are sections within the organization , who have , over the years , made correct and fair judgments on various aspects of inhumane treatment of innocents around the globe.  

I wish to point out this humbug and hypocrisy which is becoming the mainstay of the diet of foreign policy from the US and Australia (  now under a new and wise management ).  Cheers .


What the NGOs judge to be wrong do not affect one iota the workings of the US and Australia under Howard . Their brutal and cruel detention of innocents , tortures by rendition , harassment  and invasion went on uninterrupted and unremitting .  China takes into account such NGOs report too , if they are fair .It is more likely that China would change things as a result of such recommendations than those other countries . They pay lip service ( like you ) to sweetness and light but have no intention of doing anything about them , right ?

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Post time 2008-2-3 19:17:14 |Display all floors
Originally posted by blueskies88 at 2008-2-3 16:03
I like to follow around gotohell, personally.

Down boy, sit!
Good doggy.

Now, tell us. Are you in favour of these concentration camps? A simple yes or no will suffice.

[ Last edited by gotohell at 2008-2-3 07:18 PM ]
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