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US: Why do you Treat Immigrants so Badly? [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2008-7-18 00:33:17 |Display all floors
Kiwi,

The US has bailed out Mexico a couple of times now. The particular one you're thinking about is when the US propped up the Mexican bond market after Mexico devalued its currency and could no longer pay around $50 billion in bonds.

Your statement, however, is inaccurate: in the US, illegal immigrants have full access to all rights and most services thought to be only for citizens. Moreover, individual states have different rules. In California, for example, illegal immigrants can open bank accounts, get ID cards, car insurance, etc. and immigration laws are only loosely enforced, if at all, by the state.
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Post time 2008-7-18 01:23:39 |Display all floors

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Thanks for the knowledge but I will say this...if the US gives, or allows, all of those things for illegal immigrants, then, if it's your bed, you have to lie in it! Change the goddamned law, Fair nuff!

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Post time 2008-7-18 04:08:50 |Display all floors
Kiwi,

You need to understand something very important: it's one thing to cross La Migra, another to cross the IRS. The IRS does not care who you are, where you came from or what horse you rode in on, all it wants is your tax payments and, god help it, they will get them. Most illegal immigrants have a taxpayer ID number they use to pay income taxes and payroll taxes along with their contributions to local property and sales taxes. Given that they are ineligible for certain very expensive entitlements--Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security--the Federal government probably runs a profit on them.
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Post time 2008-7-18 07:20:47 |Display all floors
Of all the absurd and ridiculous rants by gotohell and others, this is probably the stupidiest one yet. I have been places and can tell you that the US treats their MASSIVE (Far more than any other country in the world) number far, far better than nearly anywhere else in the world. I challenge you to find a country whose government treats their immigrant class better (Do not say China if you want to be taken seriously). Consider that ILLEGAL immigrants to the United States can still get medical care, education for children (in fact, it is illegal for the government to find illegal immigrants through the education system) and, in some places, identity cards.

No country has the level of diversity that the US does and, in almost any place throughout the country, you can see a wide variety of very successful people in all facets of our society. To say that only straight white males have any power is beyond absurd and shows that a person knows absolutely nothing about American society.

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Post time 2008-7-18 08:19:00 |Display all floors
Uni,

Absolutely correct. In the state of California, the children of illegal immigrants can also be residents for the purpose of college tuition provided they did their last few years of high school here.
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Post time 2008-7-18 16:39:25 |Display all floors
Originally posted by unimane at 2008-7-18 07:20
I challenge you to find a country whose government treats their immigrant class better (Do not say China if you want to be taken seriously).  


CHINA.

We don't have border guards and other nutcases blasting poor immigrants away.
For thousands of years people have travelled to China to seek trade and they were allowed to do so freely and without hindrance.
Heard about the silk route?

Maybe if China had acted like the American KKK wackos and psychos, the British and other Europeans would not have got a foothold in our country before the Opium wars. We should have blasted the Anglo Imperialists as they came in but we are too trusting. The Japanese had a good strategy of not allowing westerners in and it protected them for centuries.

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Post time 2008-7-19 02:06:59 |Display all floors
Actually... China uses deadly force at its borders, particularly the one with India....
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