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Post time 2007-12-19 04:00:46 |Display all floors
The growing alliance between Russia and China counters U.S. influence

Originally posted by mengzhi at 2007-11-4 18:26
China and Russia are closer together mainly because the eagle is hovering and circling and irritating them.  

We can conclude this from the increasing amount of trade and joint military exercises between Russia and China.
China needs Russia and Russia needs China too. It is a win-win symbiotic relation.

This alliance between China and Russia will turn out to be quite practical:
(a) Russia has a lot of territory and few people compared to China which has a large population.
(b) China has a male heavy population whereas Russia has a lot of women.
(c) Russia has a lot of oil which China needs to buy.
(d) The two militaries combined would be astronomical in number and would act as a deterrent to any aggresion by the US.
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Post time 2007-12-31 06:04:24 |Display all floors
Putin: Russia-China interaction helps build just world order
Updated: 2007-12-30 16:24

Moscow -- Relations between Russia and China have a strong impact on the formation of a just world order, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

"Russian-Chinese relations provide a vivid example of friendly and mutually beneficial cooperation, based on long-term, strategic interests. Russian-Chinese political, economic and humanitarian ties have been developing vigorously, bringing visible benefits to the Russian and Chinese peoples. Strong interaction between our two countries in the world arena is an important factor of building a just world order with due account taken of civilized political-economic diversity," Putin said in a message of greetings to Chinese President Hu Jintao, according to the Kremlin press service.

"The success of the Year of China in Russia and the Year of Russia in China provides a vivid example of the two countries' shared wish to further develop mutual understanding and effective cooperation. The agreement you and I have reached to make the most successful events of the national years regular, will undoubtedly help deepen mutual trust and traditional friendship between our peoples," the Russian president said.
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Post time 2008-5-22 06:59:47 |Display all floors
Medvedev's visit to consolidate ties
By Li Xiaokun (China Daily)
Updated: 2008-05-21 10:10

China and Russia will issue a joint statement during Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's upcoming weekend visit to Beijing, which will highlight their mutual understanding of major international issues, a senior Russian diplomat said.

"I strongly suggest experts study the document, as it details China and Russia's standpoints on many international issues, including the new international order, global security and stability, and the new challenges," said Russian Ambassador to China Razov Sergey at a press conference Tuesday.

Medvedev announced on May 8 - the day he was sworn in as Russian president - that he would visit China and Kazakhstan, making China his first foreign destination outside the Commonwealth of Independent States as state head.

Accompanied by a large delegation made up of entrepreneurs and key government officials such as the energy and industry ministers, Medvedev will meet with his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao during his stay from Friday to Saturday.

The two sides are very likely to sign a cooperative agreement on nuclear energy during the visit, Sergey said, without giving further details.

"The president will also give a speech at one of the oldest and most prestigious universities in China, which is very important," said the ambassador, referring to Peking University.

It will be the first time the new president will speak publicly outside Russia. China's CCTV will broadcast the speech live.

"I'm sure people in China and other countries will be very interested to learn the president's ideas on developing Russia and its external relations directly from his mouth," Sergey said.

Li Hui, assistant minister of the Foreign Ministry, said Medvedev is "an old friend of the Chinese people" and has made great contributions to bilateral ties as the head of the organizing committee of the Year of Russia in China and the Year of China in Russia, held in 2006 and 2007, respectively.

"President Medvedev is making China his first foreign visit only half a month after he took office. This shows the high importance he himself and the Russian government give to China-Russia relations," Li said.

Condolences to victims

At the press conference, the Russian ambassador expressed his sincere condolences to quake victims in Sichuan on behalf of Russia. Yesterday was the second day of the three-day national mourning period.

"The pains and grief of our Chinese friends are also our sorrow. As a strategic cooperative partner and friendly neighbor of China, we heartily sympathize with you," Sergey said.

Moscow sent medical staff and disaster relief materials to Sichuan after the magnitude-8.0 earthquake rocked the southwestern province last Monday.

The Russian rescue team saved a 61-year-old woman trapped under the debris in the city of Dujiangyan on Saturday after working for nearly 40 minutes.

Large Olympic delegation

Sergey also said Russia would send a large delegation of more than 460 members to attend the Beijing Olympics, one of the largest delegations scheduled to come to Beijing.

Members of the Russian Olympic Committee visited Beijing a few days ago to tour facilities such as the residence of Russian athletes.

"They were satisfied," Sergey reported. "Some experienced leaders of the committee said the facilities and Olympic village in Beijing are the best among what they've seen."

A Russia leader of "very high level" will attend the Beijing Olympics, added Sergey, without naming the politician.

Russia's President Dmitry Medvedev speaks during a World War II victory ceremony in Moscow's Red Square May 9, 2008. [Agencies]

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Post time 2008-5-23 02:51:38 |Display all floors
I too think it's wrong to compare China and Russia. China is progressing while Russia is regressing. China is becoming more conciliatory in foreign policy, Russia is becoming more hostile.

The long-term outcome is inevitable. The U.S. and China will be the greatest of allies. Consider what will happen with North Korea and Taiwan. North Korea is likely to achieve peace with the U.S. and South Korea in the coming years, if not this year and the same is likely with Taiwan and China. Under such conditions there will be far less reason for an American military presence in Asia, especially as the U.S. comes to face itself with the growing threats of Iran and Russia.

China will then have even less reason for confrontation with the US and even more reason for confrontation with Russia, which will try to reassert itself in Asia to China's detriment.

There's also an interesting element of this with the Middle East. The recent major oil discoveries in Brazil, and potentially the third-largest oil field in history being discovered there, could see the United States move completely away from Middle Eastern oil or at least drastically reduce its reliance. This will leave Japan and China as the main consumers of Middle Eastern oil removing potential future sources of conflict. There's also the potential of major oil discoveries in Cuba which, combined with increased pragmatism by Raul Castro could lead to another major curb on American oil imports from the Middle East.

We are likely to see much less of the U.S. and China trading barbs and more confrontational behavior with Russia by both countries.

As I said before, bears make poor bedmates.

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Post time 2008-5-23 13:44:15 |Display all floors
Originally posted by kodama at 2008-5-23 02:51
I too think it's wrong to compare China and Russia. China is progressing while Russia is regressing. China is becoming more conciliatory in foreign policy, Russia is becoming more hostile.

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but chinese use bear bile to cure diseases
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Post time 2008-5-23 16:32:44 |Display all floors
China, Russia to hash out 3-year plan
Updated: 2008-05-22 19:46

MOSCOW  -- China is one of Russia's most important partners in the world arena, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said in a recent interview with major Chinese media in Moscow.

"Russia regards China as one of its foremost partners in its foreign policy," Medvedev said on the eve of his first visit to China after taking office on May 7.

The president expressed sincere condolences to the leaders and people of China over the devastating earthquake that shook the country's southwestern province of Sichuan on May 12.

"Our thoughts are with you at the moment, and we believe that China is capable of emerging from the aftermath of the disaster," he said.

Medvedev added that Russia, which has already sent several batches of humanitarian aid as well as rescue and medical teams to China, is willing to offer more help in the future.

On the Beijing Olympic Games, Medvedev expressed his belief that China has the capability to successfully organize the grand sports event, and that Chinese athletes will excel at the games, as will their Russian friends.

"At least half of Russia will watch the Beijing Games with enthusiasm. Sports telecasts by Russian media will record the highest audience rating," he added.

Sino-Russian relations have strengthened steadily since the signing of the bilateral Good-neighborly Friendship and Cooperation Treaty in 2001, Medvedev said, adding that mutual coordination is making progress in every field.

"The three-year plan inked by the leaders of the two countries has completed its term. We are now going to make a new plan, which will further enhance bilateral relations," he said.

Medvedev spoke highly of the theme years -- the Year of Russia in China in 2006 and the Year of China in Russia in 2007, describing them as significant events in the history of relations between the two nations.

The grandiose events, involving people from all walks of life in both countries, bore testimony to not only the high level of bilateral relations and coordination, but also the good-neighborly friendship that connects the two peoples, the Russian leader said.

The present task is to gain momentum from the theme years to facilitate economic and cultural cooperation in the decades to come, he added.

On his upcoming two-day visit to China starting Friday, Medvedev said any topic of interest to both sides could be discussed.
"I hope that consultations between me and Chinese President Hu Jintao, as well as other Chinese leaders, will cover a wide range of issues," he said. "I am full of expectation for the visit, which will be substantial and constructive."


Consolidated ties have triggered an increase in bilateral trade volume in recent years, Medvedev said, adding that two-way trade volume is targeted to reach 60 billion US dollars this year.

Chinese imports from Russia mainly include products from the energy and technological sectors. The two sides should also emphasise the optimization of trade structure, apart from increasing trade volume, he said.

Russia has paid close attention to the development of the Chinese economy, the demands of which are totally very different from those 10 to 15 years ago, Medvedev pointed out.

In the present scenario, Russia has to strengthen the competitiveness of its enterprises, and manufacture products of higher standard, the president said

"Such cooperation is beneficial for both sides," he noted.

Medvedev expressed confidence that the 21st century will be a time for the two countries to cooperate in astronautics, nanometer technology, shipbuilding, auto manufacturing and other high-tech areas, to boost the development of their economies.

He said Russia plans to enhance and develop energy cooperation with China, which is crucial to bilateral trade and economic ties.
Russia exported energy valued at some 500 million dollars to China in 2001, but the figure surpassed 6.7 billion dollars last year, Medvedev said.

The two nations have reached a basic agreement on the East Siberia-Pacific Ocean oil pipeline and its branch to China, said Medvedev, adding that negotiations between Russia's largest oil company Rosneft Oil and the China National Petroleum Corporation are nearly complete.

While expressing his willingness to establish new oil refineries with China, he said natural gas cooperation between Russia and China is also under discussion.


Medvedev said Russia's foreign policy during his presidency will be predictable, honest and creditable, while preserving the interest of the Russian people.

"Russia's foreign policy should be rational, practical, friendly and open," he said.

"Russia supports all nations and countries to achieve free, peaceful and democratic development, supports the idea of settling conflicts within efficient regimes such as the United Nations and existing international laws, and through talks," he added.

Russia's President Dmitry Medvedev toasts during a meeting with the Russian national ice hockey team in Moscow, May 20, 2008. [Agencies]
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Post time 2008-5-23 16:39:00 |Display all floors
The Russia-China partnership is a natural one and will bring peace and prosperity to both nations.
It is good to see these two nations coming together to work on a number of issues.

The West, of course will not like this one bit, as it challenges their expansion.

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