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Post time 2007-9-15 11:04:46 |Display all floors
in my opinion, everyone in this society has his rights to choose do or not
the only thing we can do is to call on the rich to help the poor, enforcement is no use
but the punishment for those illeagal incom is necessarry and the final solution to this problem is the
regulation by the government, the education in the whole society and the voice from the media

the rich should have the conscience to take care of the whole society and the poor may  be enough to
take care of themselves, then the world may go smoothly

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Post time 2007-9-15 11:36:27 |Display all floors
In order for the rich to develop a conscience, they should first realize that they didn't single-handedly acquired their wealth on their own; if someone becomes very wealthy, he couldn't have used his own hands and brain alone to get those millions; there would have been many others on whose effort, goodwill, support and cooperation sprung the success that brought him wealth.  One would also expect that because of the recent bull runs in the stock markets, there would be even more instant millionaires created. However one must note that what one gains in a stock market, someone else has to lose; the money won here is lost by someone else there.  Therefore, If the rich see that success depends on others, it will become easier to help others when they can afford it.

But there is also the issue of helping others.  There are different situations.  If a poor family loses someone and cannot afford to pay for funeral services, the rich man who quietly empties his wallet at night to give the bereaving family has done a good deed. If there's a natural disaster and many people suffer, the rich man who cuts a big cheque to buy tents, medicine, food and equipment for the rescue operation has also done a good deed. These cases are those which come suddenly for which fast reprieve by a rapid infusion of cash or kind can go a long way to reduce suffering.

The other situation is more extended and social. It is when the poor need more openings to make their own living but don't have the chance or means. In this situation, what greendragon has written is true. The rich man is the one who takes risk, provides leadership and puts in his money to build businesses that will provide employment to the poor. In this situation, teaching someone how to fish by giving him a fishing rod is ten times better than giving him a basket of fish which will not increase his skill or dignity, but instead make him dependent on the giver for continued charity.

The rich man should be able to respond as appropriate to either situation;  if something can be done immediately, do;  if something should be done so that others less well-off can also start building their own destinies using the kindness of the rich, then that should be encouraged.  In this second instance, it should mean this: pay a fair wage for a fair job done. In other words, don't cheat the workers.  I would add, if it is possible, also help them better themselves with more skills, and loans.  In other words, teach them how to fish better on their own, not just accept gifts.

I don't think anyone of us here is green-eyed about the rich and superrich;  if one observes life's events carefully, there is a sense of poignant destiny about things.  Sometimes, you just know you are not going to make it.  So, if someone becomes rich after much difficulty and can help others in turn who are less fortunate, that is something to be admired and further encouraged so that more will also do the same;  by the same token, those who are being helped should never take advantage but instead strive to better themselves so that they too can help others in turn.

As to conspicuous consumption of the rich, it's all a matter of priority;  if one becomes very rich, then buying a big limousine will not require second thought; but as we all know, there is a hidden factor few seldom note; when the car is delivered, its market value drops by some thirty percent instantly. If the car is very expensive, that thirty percent is a lot of paper loss; and one therefore wonders wouldn't it be better for the superrich to buy a smaller car and give that amount to do some good somewhere, maybe even plough back into the business?  Of course, people will say they are spending only once, and they deserve it, etc. We can live with that - but it does seem a bit ostentatious.

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Post time 2007-9-15 15:05:49 |Display all floors

Really?

I don't believe that most successul entrepreneurs are ONLY able to count cash in their purses but will become moron-minded when challenged how to maintain old market share and explore new leeway, how to further save his production cost, how to inspire his staff, how to avoid potential venture in market, and how to cope with the various local authorities investigations that is typically colored with so-called Chinese Character, of cause including some preposterous moral questions like 'Can you gain your money without the help of your hard-working employees?', ....... In fact, every boss will confront these challenges almostly every hour.  It seems that these richers could never escape the front-stage of being conerned by  colossal hard-working class that stand with truth and justice for ever.

To find  the real answer, it's necessary to carefully review the topic again. They said  "Wealthy Chinese do not have a good reputation.....".  Frankly, I believe that the people who would say yes to the statement must come from not foreign working class but Chinese working class.  On the one side, actually we have constantly  watched many broadcasted touching storyies like certain prominent entrepreneur donate huge lump of money for the Prospect Engineering Project and so on. However such story never happens to our boss(es).  Then we seem to have every reason to blame our boss(es) for his cold-blooded heart. Is that the case?  Before reply to the answer, I also have some questions. That is, how do you earn your life, my dear working-class friends? The answer will go without saying. The second is what is your definition on the term, 'reputation'; And whether or not  does 'good-reputation' mean devotion of the boss's purse. On the other hand, why did the speaker will denounce Chinese richers purposely? If Chinese richers are really to be blame, would the speaker expound what in the hell make Chinese richers win the special laurel among global richers?  Any statistic data or cases?

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Post time 2007-9-15 15:44:30 |Display all floors

#20

break down your post into 12 points
so that it can be understood
more clearly
so that accurate replies can be made
so that everyone can get to the end of this journey.

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Post time 2007-9-15 17:19:24 |Display all floors

Dignity is teaching a man how to fish

Originally posted by markwu at 2007-9-15 11:36
... teaching someone how to fish by giving him a fishing rod is ten times better than giving him a basket of fish which will not increase his skill or dignity, but instead make him dependent on the giver for continued charity....


Hear, hear! Nothing more demoralising to make an able-bodied man reliant on handouts. There is no such thing as a menial job, an honest day's wage for an honest day's work, you pay your fare and taxes to boot.

What is wealth? So far we have touched only on monetary wealth. Any other types of wealth such as "social connection" which allows you to access people? Surely (and I emphasise) the inherited wealth to network is priceless. What about education and knowledge? You pick up the phone and make a call, the other side take your call on hearing that it is you. As said: priceless!
Let the dice fly high

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Post time 2007-9-16 07:13:34 |Display all floors
ur a funny guy....

its like saying  "YAO is tall, so are all chinese people!"

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Post time 2007-9-16 08:35:55 |Display all floors
Well,this is kind of stereotype of Chinese.Looking at our long history, or some famous playscripts or novels especially, when there is a need for the rich to appear, it's common that they are arranged to intervene the hero and heroine's originally perfect marriage.Of course, you can say that this is the need of the whole story where there must be some evil guys.Yes,this is correct. But have you ever thought that why is it so often that the rich are taken as wicked people.

In my opinion, it is a tradition that Chinese people look down upon the rich because money is always regarded as a devil and in this way they often think they themselves can be respected by others.That is to say,  to oppose the rich equals to raise one's reputation. And this is passed down generation by generation, and it is not strange that the rich still  have a bad reputation now.

Actually, with the economic development of China, there will be more and more rich people thus causing it hard to be jealous of them.Therefore, I think this phenomenon cann't last long,especially with almost everyone is on the way to be rich.So in a word, don't worry!

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