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Post time 2007-7-15 01:12:28 |Display all floors
Originally posted by changabula at 14-7-2007 02:40 PM
Do I have to remind you of Greg Dyke and Andrew Gilligan?


No you have to back up your claims.

Go to news.bbc.co.uk and tell me which stories are lies and which stories are anti-China.

Good luck!
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Post time 2007-7-15 03:35:20 |Display all floors
Originally posted by changabula at 2007-7-14 21:32
That explains why you are so stoooopid.



Even the British people don't trust the BBC.

Even the British government don't trust the BBC.

But you do.



hoho... pretend to be a British!??
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Post time 2007-7-15 03:37:39 |Display all floors
Originally posted by tmphgt at 2007-7-15 01:12


No you have to back up your claims.

Go to news.bbc.co.uk and tell me which stories are lies and which stories are anti-China.

Good luck!


Exactly! Another brain washed case!
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Post time 2007-7-15 07:11:28 |Display all floors
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Post time 2007-7-15 08:15:04 |Display all floors
Who is the brainwashed one, asshole?

Originally posted by creepyspider at 2007-7-15 03:37


Exactly! Another brain washed case!


If you have not heard about the two people I mentioned then you must be the brainwashed one.

Not up to me to do anyone's research. Do it yourself.

I am not teaching today.


OK I will give you ONE link to start you off:
http://www.barder.com/ephems/143

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Post time 2007-7-15 08:46:59 |Display all floors

A two way approach.

Dear taikor,

I do agree with you that bad reputation is bad for business, besides being hurtful and unfair if not true .

The way round this is to put our side of the story forward in a calm and collected way and leave the final judgment to the readers and viewers. Nowadays, with the avalanche of news availability, the educated and learned are in a much better position to compare and contrast from multiple sources. The worst thing to do is to descend down the gutter ( press ) and wallow there with the feral.

It is always tempting to vent one's bile when falsely accused , as by the BBC lately . With the memory freshly minted on the " intelligence "  of the " WMD, sexed up  dossier and reasons to war " , the world is alerted to the wobbly plank on which the Western press is based.

Confucius said " Gently gently catch the monkey ".  Good cheer to you.

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Post time 2007-7-15 10:14:20 |Display all floors

Western media serving the interest of their nation

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ ... D3-12D41D076CBC.htm

Media bias 'threat' to Iraq   
By  Ahmed Janabi

Al-Hashimi says Western media speak of Sunni
Arabs in the same breath as terrorists [EPA]
Information about Iraq propagated by Western media is often woefully inaccurate or downright wrong, according to leading Arab figures, and such distortions are damaging any chance of peace in the country.

Tariq al-Hashimi, Iraq's Sunni Arab vice-president, says that one idea - widely accepted in the West as true but which lacks evidence to support it - has upset the balance of power in Iraq to such an extent that violence was an inevitable outcome.

Western media often refer to Iraq as being "overwhelmingly Shia", or use other phrases to imply a large Shia majority. This, he says, is wrong - and it has resulted in over-representation of Shia parties in the Iraqi government at the expense of Sunni Arabs.

Al-Hashimi said: "The false allegations promoted by Western media have resulted in an [inappropriate] political process, and everyone is paying the price for its wrong foundations."

Where the figures came from to back up assertions of a large Shia majority are unclear: no Iraqi census in modern history has ever included sect.  

Sources such as Encyclopaedia Britannica put the Shia population in Iraq at 52 per cent of the total in 2001. However, figures circulated by the US military, which invaded Iraq in 2003, put the figure at 60 per cent.

Al-Hashimi has also blamed the Western media for the feeling of deprivation among Iraq’s Shia, referring to phrases such as "the once-dominant Sunni", and "Sunni who enjoyed privileges under Baath Party rule" - widely used in news reports.  

He said: "Western media and politicians are still promoting those same allegations, and we really do not know how to let them realise that everybody got his share in ruling Iraq across history.

"Western media and politicians are still defining this community [Sunni Arabs] as a troublesome group, whose motives are incomprehensible by the West.

"Western media always put question marks around this community and speak of it in the same breath as terrorism. They portray it as a community that is still incapable of comprehending the new Iraq; hence, it is not qualified to play a role in a democratic process. Such allegations are backed by lobbies whose aim is to undermine Iraqi nationalism."

The spokesman for the Arab Baath Socialist Party, which ruled Iraq from 1968 to 2003, who asked to be identified as Abu Muhammad for security reasons, said: "Most Western media outlets have been helping the US occupation authorities to portray the Baath party as a Sunni party which suppressed the Shia and deprived them of their rights.

"Actually, sect was never an issue in Iraq. I am a Shia and I have been a senior Baath official ... No Baath party official - no Iraqi official - ever asked me about my sect.

"When the US army occupied Iraq they issued a list of 55 wanted top Iraqi officials, starting with President Saddam Hussein; half of those senior officials were Shia.

"The Committee of Debaathification issued a list of 100,000 senior Iraqi Baathists who would not be allowed to enjoy governmental posts, 66,000 of them were Shia - so how is the Baath party a Sunni party?

"It is a character assassination campaign instructed by Western lobbies and carried out by Western media."

Abu Muhammad voiced resentment at the the term "Sunni insurgency", saying that Iraqis from different backgrounds are fighting the foreign presence in Iraq.

"This term plays down Iraqi nationalism," he said. "I repeat, I am a Shia and I am resisting the US forces in Iraq, and we know for sure that resistance fighters from all background are fighting. Why do the Western agencies insist that only Sunni are fighting? Big question mark, I think."

"I think there was sectarianism under Saddam and the Western media reflected that, but the question is, should we hold the Sunni sect responsible for that? I think Iraqis must be careful in answering this question"

Mustafa Bakri, chief editor of the Egyptian newspaper El-osboa, said the attitude of the Western media is unsatisfactory when it comes to any issue in the Arab world, not only Iraq.

He said: "In their coverage of the current Palestinian issues, they are backing Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, to such an extent that it is basically the US and Israeli view.

"Look at their coverage of last year’s attack on Mar Jerjes Churge [a Christian church in Cairo] in Egypt, their coverage was provoking, unprofessional and seemed designed to create a rift between Egypt’s Muslims and Christians."  

Prominent Western media outlets that served the Middle East for decades have, for many people, ceased to be credible. Many people in Arab countries now feel that they take sides rather report news fairly.  

Aws Sattar, an Iraqi journalist, said: "Until the second Gulf war in 1991, Iraqis and all Arabs used to listen to the BBC Arabic service and the Voice of America radio station to get information, they thought they were revered international news agencies.

"It has not been the case since the role they played in keeping Iraq under sanctions and the subsequent invasion of the country. I can feel that people have become wary of the news they get from Western agencies … They do listen, but they tend to verify the information by also listening to, watching or reading Arab media."

Bakri expressed surprise that no Western media outlet has ever apologised to its readers for promoting false Iraq war pretexts.  

"Western media in general supported what the US and UK governments wanted in their massive build-up for the war," he said.

"They supported the existence of alleged weapons of mass destruction ... It took them the destruction of a country, murder of hundreds of thousands of its people, to realise they were wrong. Personally, I think they knew it was wrong from the beginning but they wanted it this way, because they are simply an arm for their governments not for truth and neutrality as they promote themselves."

However, Karim Bader, an independent Iraqi politician, said that Western media had done a decent job on reporting what had occurred under Saddam's rule.

He said one had to look only at the senior army commanders and intelligence officers in Saddam's day, all of whom he said were Sunni. Or to look at the sizes of houses in Shia suburbs - small and overcrowded - or in Sunni areas, where houses were far larger but with fewer occupants.

Bader said: "I think there was sectarianism under Saddam and the Western media reflected that, but the question is, should we hold the Sunni sect responsible for that? I think Iraqis must be careful in answering this question."
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