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Post time 2007-3-25 18:52:05 |Display all floors
Match Point !! He he

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Post time 2007-3-25 19:56:02 |Display all floors

Irish Missionary.

Paddy my boy,

This is about Guantanamo Bay and I don't think it is good manners to subject other forumites to our little side-line banter. I think that the torture chambers in Cuba where the Americans throw away all the protocols of human decency and subject  one and all to extreme humilation and physical harm is sickening. After years of berating the USSR with the " gulags " this hell hole must feature as the equal if not surpass the former. These men are never commited to trial and therefore they are all gulity without proof. Good liberty and justice here.

Those who have been sent home without trial because some governments have the backbone to point out to this inhumane action are unheard of again. What about an apology and compensation then? " We are Americans we don't apologise ! " . That is about it too.

PS. Ireland has been the worse place for collective punishment by the British ( potato famine by design ) criminals. The sectarian violence between Protestants and Catholics must compare well with genocide of any place. To their credit, the Irish have risen above these and have made  good ; better than the rest of the UK. This does not distract from the racist ,bigoted and silly China-bashing Paddy embarked upon here on the forum. His peculiar battle for the Taiwanese is just so Irish missionary , isn't it father Murphy ?

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Post time 2007-3-25 21:18:34 |Display all floors
Originally posted by mengzhi at 2007-3-25 21:56
Paddy my boy,
This is about Guantanamo Bay and I don't think it is good manners to subject other forumites to our little side-line banter. ...

Originally posted by mengzhi at 2007-3-25 08:31
Irish ( orange or green ? ),

Originally posted by mengzhi at 2007-3-25 15:50
Irish politics is too warped for my liking. No future in that place. There must be more Irish out of than in Ireland. True ? Lucky ducky.  ...

Originally posted by mengzhi at 2007-3-25 08:31
You jump from  pillar to post to avoid addressing the issues ,especially when you run out of ammunition ( which is most of the time.



This is f*cking HILARIOUS.
Mengzhi is the greatest exponent of all the sins of which he accuses everyone else.

What an unbelievable hypocrite!
"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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Post time 2007-3-25 21:47:11 |Display all floors
Guys, back to the topic.

I'm not gonna comment on the argument "hey they torture people too!!". It's not a valid argument, it doesn't make right what is wrong. If those things happen in China then I disapprove of them, but we're discussing Guantanamo Bay here.

But how can a country just 'suspend' it's laws on part of it's territory? And how can a government simply decide that a group of persons have no rights anymore? Doesn't that worry you? Americans always talk about 'checks and balances', enabling the people to keep the government and it's army under control. Where are those checks and balances if your president can singlehandedly push all laws aside for a certain place and group of people? Who says he wont do it again when it suits him, who guarantees that he wont? One of America's founding fathers said that a good government is one which cannot be used by evil persons to do evil on it's people. Are you rejecting this principle, isn't it relevant anymore in the 'post-9/11' world? (strange term, as if that single event changed everything while it isn't unique at all in the world).

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Post time 2007-3-25 23:52:17 |Display all floors
If you care to check frothing, you will find that your  " 5-Star Hilton " does not exist in G'mo. Illegal prisoners are held in isolation for up to 23 hours per day in a tiny cell. " Exercise " ie just to get out of the hell hole is for 30 minutes, sensory depravation ( strong harsh lights, loud music or cold chilling blasts of air ) are used for hours to " soften " the prisoners. The ICRC ( Red Cross ) is seldom allowed to have access to the prisoners, When they do they are not allowed to  speak to the prisoners alone. Prisoners who say anything bad ( the truth ) about the place get punished for their trouble.  The list goes on . I even doubt that  froth would be prepared to " enjoy " such luxury if given a chance.
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Post time 2007-3-26 05:23:00 |Display all floors

Moribund Modus Operandi.

Dear Pendragon,

Thank you for bringing some sense back to the discussion. This inhumane act which transgresses all civil codes of behaviour is sticking out like a sore thumb for the whole world to see. It is looking increasingly  possible to me that this Dubya administration is deliberately providing this filthy and foetid act of barbarity to tell the world " watch out. We can still do whatever we want to you and with you if you so much as look the wrong way ". I cannot believe that any government can be so imcompetent as to not realise that this stench of indecency will permeates all and sundry quarters.  It is the last resort of the bully. In light of total political and diplomatic collpase, there is only the humiliation and brutalisation card left to play.

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Post time 2007-3-26 07:45:51 |Display all floors
Originally posted by emucentral at 2007-3-25 21:18









This is f*cking HILARIOUS.
Mengzhi is the greatest exponent of all the sins of which he accuses everyone else.

What an unbelievable hypocrite!


You defective abnormal subhuman! Since you and "Irish Joker" keep sidestepping the serious issue of "Guantanamo, the shame of a generation", then you are in a sense agreeing that its right to have it.

Deep down you ignorant racist sh!ts agree with the Americans for torturing people but you make a token public gesture to hide your true feelings.
I am Chinese and Proud of it!

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