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Post time 2007-3-10 17:12:55 |Display all floors
Originally posted by zglobal at 2007-3-10 17:13
They are often accused of being such terrible polluters and yet don't reply with the ammunition they know exists. ...


It is important to realise that all pollution damages the environment, but not all of it contributes to global warming. On the issue of global warming, China's per capita figures look good, but what about general environmental pollution? Look at the problem with the chemical spill into the Songhua River a year or so ago.

Fatdragon alluded to this sort of pollution in his post. It may not affect the greenhouse environment (and hence people in other countries) but localised pollution of lakes, fisheries and farmland is of most importance to Chinese people.
"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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Carbon is it

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Post time 2007-3-10 18:10:54 |Display all floors
zglobal, I think the word that you are looking for is ''scapegoat'' as in ''America needs a scapegoat to divert attention from it's own contribution to polution''.

I think it would be politically difficult for the Americans to significantly cut polution because it would cost votes. The American political system is big busness and it doesn't pay to upset your financial backers or your voters.

Perhaps the Chinese system of government has a better chance of the radical changes necessary. They appear to just get on with the job rather than sit there procrastinating.

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Post time 2007-3-10 19:28:56 |Display all floors
Originally posted by zglobal at 2007-3-10 19:58
Carbon emissions are the most easy to pin point and that's why they are used.
Measuring other levels of pollution just allows governments and individuals to squirm around and twist any logiical debate.

Carbon emissions are all we have to go on with statistical accuracy. When you have an accurate alternative let me know.


CO2 into the atmosphere doesn't poison people or animals directly.
The sh!t that went into the Songhua river does kill directly.
The crap that comes out of the mines in PNG and goes into rivers also kills fish and harms people.

We cannot simply concentrate on carbon emissions. Other forms of pollution may not cause global warming, but they can have devastating localised effects.
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