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Originally posted by johnners at 2-20-2007 20:25
The continent that was riven by bloody conflict for centuries and
spawned two world wars has enjoyed unshakeable peace among its
constituent members for 50 years
Except for the conflicts in/with IRA, Yugoslavia, Albania, Algeria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Venezuela, different parts of Africa, India, HK (well, that was actually a better example of 'peace'), Vietnam, E. Germany, the list goes on. Heck, shall I even mention the recent Swedish excursion into Liechtenstein? ;-0 Not to mention one whole generation of people is all 50 years is.
You should have more thanks to NATO than the EU for European unity. Those Soviet aggressors would have your ass on a plate if it weren't for NATO.
The EU economy is barely bigger than the US economy in terms of GDP, yet the EU has nearly 50% more people.
Interestingly, countries like Poland are discussing possible missile defense systems with the US. The UK has been head-to-head witht he US in Iraq/Afghanistan, and so was France just 15 years ago. Germany is home (occupied?)to nearly 100k American soldiers (you probably know why). See link :
Italy has US Air Force located there. We had to save Yugo in your ethnic wars that you couldn't control in your own backyard just a decade ago.
Iran thinks Europe is such a joke so much that it thinks any use of force from the UN would certainly come from the USA having to enforce the law(s), hence the reason they only address the United States on the nuclear matter, while entertaining IAEA. Thank god Germany got a new chancellor is all I can say, and now The Frog is about to vacate the premise!!! Maybe the EU will become a force to reckon with/
So, how is it that the EU intends to enforce such laws, or make America think that it's a credible enough force so that the USA should be worried of such consequences, especially when Iran isn't even worried? What countries would actually oblige themselves to be America's enemy, when the truth is that we are more integrated than not, even if you don't like it?
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You should be more worried about producing babies than limiting US influence what with your population dragging and all. It's worse than I thought: "opulation growth is by natural growth, and to a lesser extent, immigration. In 2003, France's natural population growth (excluding immigration) was responsible for almost all natural population growth in the European Union. In 2004, population growth was 0.68% and then in 2005 birth and fertility rates continued to increase. The natural increase of births over deaths rose to 270,100. The lifetime fertility rate rose to 1.94 in 2005, from 1.92 in 2004." wikipedia Good luck with this endeavor,and if you guys needed any help I'll gladly go to France, Greece, Romania, Poland, and a few others to help populate. It's the least I can do.
At any rate, the two-faced liberals will probably grant you your request before the EU does. Well, at least in front of the media they will, what they do behind the scenes will be more aggression toward China/Russia (and Bush worked so hard to foster a good relationship with the Soveit). Of course that's if they don't defeat themselves again next year.
Ghandi was asked: “What do you think of Western civilisation?" and replied "I think it would be a very good idea.” Ghandi Hey, at least you and I haven't killed each other yet, right?
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