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Guangzhou and Shenzhen have an equal share of problems, the crime rate in Shenzhen is not any lower than Guangzhou and while Shenzhen maybe more accomodating to non local residents, that is not always the case. I will remind you of the incident when the Shenzhen government put up a banner calling people form the province of Henan criminals and that they weren't welcomed to Shezhen. The banner was only taken down after the Henan provincial government appealed to the Central government. |
To the person who bragged about Shenzhen getting the University games, unfortunately that is quite an underachievement considering Beijing, Tianjin, Qingdao, and Hong Kong will have the Olympic Games, Shanghai has the 2010 World Expo and guess what, Guangzhou gets the 2010 Asian Games, which I really think is just a little bit more prestige than the Univeristy Games. Furthermore when it comes to Education, Guangzhou is the education hub of Southern China with the highest concentration of Key Universities. Zhongshan University ranks top 10 in all of China while South China Normal University, South China University of Technology, Jinan University are all some of the best in the South China Region. In that regard Shenzhen cannot compare since Shenzhen University really isn't anything to talk about.
Where Shenzhen excels past Guangzhou is in civic infrastructural design, but that is due to the fact the Shenzhen prior to its present state was a small fishing village and was just empty land, allowing city planners an easy developmental path. Guangzhou with it's history of over 3000 years made it extremely difficult for city planners to to transform, but they have done a great job despite the difficulties and have given Guangzhou residents a public transportation system that is unmatched anywhere in China. Can Guangzhou improve? Most definitely, but that can be said about any city in China.
Discrimination exists and it does so for a wide variety of reasons, mainly out of ignorance of the realities of the changes brought on by a rapidly changing economy. Migrant workers have indeed made a large contribution to the development of major cities in China, their exploitation however has also led to an rapid increase in crime.
I do agree with redbud that local cantonese do throw out vulgar language quite often and it does irritate me. It hurts my ears to hear someone talk while inserting profanity in every other word unfortunatelty this seems to have become a habit in most parts of Guangzhou and this point I conceed to you. I will never understand why someone can't just speak normally. I mean cna understand if someone uses profanity in times of anger and rage or humor, but to adopt it as your regular vocabulary is annoying and just plain vulgar.
Many Chinese cities have the practice of discriinating against out of province people and it's not exclusive to Guangzhou , it happens in Shanghai, Beijing and it will eventually happen in Shenzhen when it's local hukou population increases.
Redbud, I sympathize deeply regarding your work situation, but perhaps your biases towards Guangzhou are a result of your frustration to find a good job in Guangzhou. It seems to me you have a very distinguished education and I think a good job sould be forthcoming as long as you persist. Life is not easy in China presently, but there are many opportunities with the fast development of China and while the opportunties do not present themselves equally, it is a great improvement upon having no opportunities at all. It's hard to believe employers are giving you only 1300 given your credentials, that's almost robbery. Surely, there must be an English shool or training center in Guangzhou that values your talents. I wish you the best and that you may find some solace in this city of Guangzhou.
[ Last edited by fyh2004 at 2007-4-2 02:25 PM ]