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Post time 2006-8-20 10:48:34 |Display all floors
Originally posted by tongluren at 2006-8-17 02:29
Media is not like goods.  There is much more to protect - the hearts and souls of a nation - than just selling pairs of socks.  Foreign values, such as easy glorification of sex as a tool (prevalen ...


If the issue is unacceptable content, then it ought to be dealt with directly. To say that foreign animation cannot be presented between certain times is not the same. that simply means that a Chinese cartoon glorifying sex could be aired, while a foreing cartoon teaching confucianist principles couldn't? Would it not make more sence then to simply establish a rating system that would say that cartoons af a certain nature, be they foreign or local, cannot be aired? That way, the chinese cartoon which glorifies sex would be banned, while the foreign confucianist one wouldn't.

And from a cultural perspective, don't forget that Huaren abroad are aplenty. What if a foreing Huaren makes a cartoon depicting the life of a Chinese in Canada, let's say? There is no cultural value in that?
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Post time 2006-8-20 10:51:56 |Display all floors
Originally posted by tongluren at 2006-8-17 03:13
Foreign Values Poison Young Minds

It is true.  Cartoons and anime produced by foreigners - especially Japan and America, glorify sex and violence to an extreme.  Forget justice - might is right is the lesson each and every one of the popular program.  It matters not what the ideology of the opponents are, at the end of the show, where the showdown takes place, it is might that trumps.  

That is a very bad thing to teach impressionable youngsters.  See where it got the ultra-aggressive westerners.  Such irresponsibility poisons entire societies, leading to societal violence in richer nations and outright strife in poorere.

I can with very little exception state that the existing foreign cartoons and anime teach very bad values.  


Gross generalisation. Again, you think what ought to be aired ought to be based on where it is produced rather than on its content? What if a Canadian Huaren produces a cartoon on Confucianist values? It ought ot be banned because it was developped by a Canadian? Or what if a Chinese in China produces something promoting violence? It ought ot be allowed because he is Chinese?

It's rediculous. If the government wants to establish standards, then it ought to bevelop a non-biassed rating system, and not just some nationalistic garbage.
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Post time 2006-8-20 10:54:23 |Display all floors
Originally posted by catbird at 2006-8-17 11:04
Chinese cartoon studios need competition, but they are too weak to compete with foreigners. Besides tech and skill lackness, they can't get what the market wants. Most Chinese cartoons can't surviv ...


If the quality of education in that field should improve, then certainly they could.  So why does the government simply not invest in iproving education in that field?
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Post time 2006-8-20 17:41:58 |Display all floors
Originally posted by peoplesh at 20-8-2006 03:11

When people say Chinese industry is weak. I feel it is saying the Chinese people in those industry are weak. I take this as a strong insult that I cannot take it.


But that is precisely the problem. They lack imagination. You have to accept it, otherwise things can never get better. The unpopularity of domestic cartoons in China is sufficient evidence.

Chinese are one of the most industrial, talented people currently on this planet. Afraid of competition? I think the foreign counter part should be afraid in the near future.


Then the new regulations aren't required, are they?
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Post time 2006-8-20 23:13:40 |Display all floors
Originally posted by mencius at 2006-8-20 17:41


But that is precisely the problem. They lack imagination. You have to accept it, otherwise things can never get better. The unpopularity of domestic cartoons in China is sufficient evidence.

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When you stay people in Chinese cartoon industry lack imagination is very much like saying those people have low IQ. Imagination is only a nature of human being's talents and I believe it is equally distributed among all the people in the world.

What is lacking, as far as I can tell, is the understanding of what are the rules and principles governing/adjusting people's day to day life and how to have those principles reflected in the cartoon, so that when people watch these cartoons, they will be emotionally engaged. Put in a simple way, many people are not very good at grasping what is "common sense". Of course, different culture have different understandings of what is common sense. It is like US people may find a hard time to understand UK jokes and vise versa.

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Post time 2006-8-20 23:27:24 |Display all floors
Originally posted by peoplesh at 20-8-2006 16:13

When you stay people in Chinese cartoon industry lack imagination is very much like saying those people have low IQ.


No, that is completely unrelated. Some people can be very intelligent but still not be good at original thinking - as we would say, "they cannot think outside of the box". Others might have a poor education or are not very academically minded (e.g. they might be terrible at counting numbers), but have wonderful ideas in their heads.

Can't you see the difference?
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Post time 2006-8-20 23:48:59 |Display all floors
of course. I am saying whether having imagination is human being's talents. It has nothing to do with culture or education. You cannot say one ethic group lacks of imagination, but you can say one particular group lacks proper education or skills.

As far as considering it to be human being's natural talent, it is comparable as intelligence (which is also a natural talent of human being).

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